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Hey UK, How's That Gun-Free Zone Workin' Out For Y'all?

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  • M Mycroft Holmes

    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    Stand behind what you say

    I agree with this, he should not have retracted the arsehole epithet, your post deserved it!

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    Slacker007
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    I asked Pete to remove the asshole bit because we don't call people asshole here on this site. It sets a bad example for the other members and sends them a message that calling people names is Okay. I have called other members here names before, as well. It ultimately served no beneficial purpose, and it was wrong.

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      You're an idiot.

      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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      I see he can push your buttons, too.

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        Damn, but your rep's taking a hammering over this. Undeservedly, IMO, even though I'm on the "disagrees" side of the fence. I don't think you should lose an article-worth's rep over it, so I'll counter a bit.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        realJSOP
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        I honestly appreciate the sentiment, but... I no longer vote on stuff, answer questions, nor post articles. I haven't even run Reputationator since December. I also don't post messages because I think people will like it. I post what I want, and with over 9 "million" users, what I post is bound to offend someone's sensitivities (mostly foreigners). If the thought zombies here want to vote, they should, by all means, take their hands off their dicks long enough to click their mouse - whatever blows up their skirt. I'm not a supporter of the touchy-feely new world order, and I refuse to let my individuality, freedom of thought, or natural rights be absorbed and diffused by the collective. In short, screw 'em. :)

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        • L Lost User

          SOome cops do carry guns, and in fact being a relatively gun free society, with the exception of hunting weapons, is working out well since our gun murder rate is very low.

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          realJSOP
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          (Adding fuel to the fire...) Maybe they just don't trust female cops with guns...

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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            Mike Diack
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            I don't like the inflamatory subject line. It's not big and it's not clever. You hardly need to look elsewhere to see that arming the police isn't the answer to all problems either. Have some respect for the dead.

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              It most certainly does make my point. Gun control laws only disarm the law-abiding. Criminals, by their very nature, don't obey the law, so making laws concerning gun control are pointless.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              Mike Diack
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              Take your US politics elsewhere. The situation in the UK is different. Maybe if you actually came to the UK and spoke to people you'd understand.

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                mark merrens wrote:

                it also shows your total ignorance of how guns are viewed in the UK. No one wants them. No one needs one.

                That's because you guys are used to being oppressed and monitored. Only you can fix that particular problem.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                Mike Diack
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                Now you're just trolling. Sod off.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  Distind
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                  Better than Some other places.[^]

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                  • S Slacker007

                    I asked Pete to remove the asshole bit because we don't call people asshole here on this site. It sets a bad example for the other members and sends them a message that calling people names is Okay. I have called other members here names before, as well. It ultimately served no beneficial purpose, and it was wrong.

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                    Mycroft Holmes
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                    I know you did, but when someone behaves like an arsehole he deserves to be told so and I personally have no issue with using profanity to emphasise the point. At least JSOP admits he was being a prat and does not try and weasel his way out of it. Besides I think the whole PC thing is counter productive, I'm of the opinion that a little pain is an excellent teacher, sarcasm and vitriol are about the only way to deliver that here.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      Better than Some other places.[^]

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                      realJSOP
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                      They don't get any training in NY because it's also a gun-free zone - [SARCASM]so they never have to shoot at anyone[/SARCASM]. You know what's REALLY absurd? Civilians that carry are held to a higher standard than the cops where collateral damage is concerned. The cops in that incident will probably receive "training", but a civilian in the same situation would receive physical brutality from the cops (and if they were shooting at him, several incident bystanders would be wounded) when they "take him down", assault charges, and jail time.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                      • S Slacker007

                        I see he can push your buttons, too.

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                        realJSOP
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                        If buttons get pushed, it ain't on me. It's on the pushee.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                        • L Lost User

                          No doubt Somalia is worse, but do you really want to compare your country to that?

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                          realJSOP
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                          Gun violence isn't caused by guns (or the presence of guns). It's caused by social issues. 80 million Americans own guns, and each one has an average four guns each. I have three, and my wife has three, so I guess you'd say I'm not the "typical" American portrayed by those numbers.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                            Chris Quinn
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                            82% of British cops say they don't want to be routinely armed.[^]

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                            • S Slacker007

                              I see he can push your buttons, too.

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                              R Giskard Reventlov
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                              He's just an arrogant, ignorant big-mouth who made an ill-judged remark and is now trying to extricate himself by being douche of the year. I think calling him an idiot exhibited great self control.

                              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                BobJanova
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                                It's not stupid at all. It means they can't make a gun-related mistake and kill or seriously injure someone because they felt under pressure and made a poor decision. If they need to call in armed backup, they can do so. Having a gun at your hip doesn't stop you being shot anyway. And it's working out very well, thank you. Gun crime is rare here, unlike your armed-to-the-teeth paradise where there have been several high profile shooting sprees this year alone.

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                                • S Slacker007

                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  Nobody's ever been able to do that. They like to THINK they have, but it actually hasn't happened.

                                  What a miserable life you must have John, always trying to make sure people don't put you in your place and constantly telling us all about your endeavors and what a bad ass your are.

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                                  realJSOP
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                                  Think whatever you want to think (as long as the collective approves of it).

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                                    I know you did, but when someone behaves like an arsehole he deserves to be told so and I personally have no issue with using profanity to emphasise the point. At least JSOP admits he was being a prat and does not try and weasel his way out of it. Besides I think the whole PC thing is counter productive, I'm of the opinion that a little pain is an excellent teacher, sarcasm and vitriol are about the only way to deliver that here.

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    realJSOP
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                                    Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                    At least JSOP admits he was being a prat and does not try and weasel his way out of it.

                                    No, I didn't admit to being a prat (whatever the hell that is). I merely expect people to say what they mean instead of sugar-coating it at the behest of the collective. And if people are going to stoop to playground behavior by calling me names, I expect them to put some effort into it. Norm called me a "dick", which lacks a creativity and pizazz. Pete calling me an asshole is - well, let's be practical - pointless (and lacks just as much creativity as Norm's proclamation that I'm a dick). What I find interesting is that people are acting as if I'm happy that two cops were killed, simply because I omitted what I thought was the BLINDINGLY F*KING OBVIOUS idea that it's a shame that they were sacrificed in the name of imagined security. If the individuals here want to go ahead and think that 1-voting me and name calling are somehow a viable defense of their imitation utopia, or that their actions have a snowball's chance in hell of changing my view of the world, more power to 'em (but honestly, they're wasting their time). And on a related note, I don't know who decided that the word "elephant" is a viable replacement for "f*ck", but y'all (the people that use it) really need to cowboy-up and say what you really want to say. In the case of "elephant", even "frak" (from Battlestar Galactica) is a better replacement, because everybody knows that's a thinly veiled version of the intended word.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                                      Well, yeah, and it seems to me that the best place to get such training is in the military.

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                                      realJSOP
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                                      Well, back then, everyone had a rifle and learned how to use it (if not for defense, then for survival). Concealment, stalking, evasion, and adaptability - skills equally necessary to hunt game for food.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                      • M Mike Diack

                                        Now you're just trolling. Sod off.

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                                        realJSOP
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                                        Actually, if I was trolling, I would just post something and let the vultures feed on it without further participation. Your response simply illustrates your apparent inability to present a compelling argument that contradicts my statement. I'll reply with something equally relevant and thought-provoking: My dad can beat up your dad.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                          At least JSOP admits he was being a prat and does not try and weasel his way out of it.

                                          No, I didn't admit to being a prat (whatever the hell that is). I merely expect people to say what they mean instead of sugar-coating it at the behest of the collective. And if people are going to stoop to playground behavior by calling me names, I expect them to put some effort into it. Norm called me a "dick", which lacks a creativity and pizazz. Pete calling me an asshole is - well, let's be practical - pointless (and lacks just as much creativity as Norm's proclamation that I'm a dick). What I find interesting is that people are acting as if I'm happy that two cops were killed, simply because I omitted what I thought was the BLINDINGLY F*KING OBVIOUS idea that it's a shame that they were sacrificed in the name of imagined security. If the individuals here want to go ahead and think that 1-voting me and name calling are somehow a viable defense of their imitation utopia, or that their actions have a snowball's chance in hell of changing my view of the world, more power to 'em (but honestly, they're wasting their time). And on a related note, I don't know who decided that the word "elephant" is a viable replacement for "f*ck", but y'all (the people that use it) really need to cowboy-up and say what you really want to say. In the case of "elephant", even "frak" (from Battlestar Galactica) is a better replacement, because everybody knows that's a thinly veiled version of the intended word.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                          Brisingr Aerowing
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                                          Here[^] I think he was referring to definition #2. Although none of those definitions actually describe you. You are more... Complex than that. (And please don't kill the messenger!)

                                          I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. Stephen Hawking

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