days and nights of Visual Studio hell
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
I just upgraded my desktop box (Win7 x64) from 4GB to 8GB and the performance shot up - which leads me to conclude that the machine was being slowed down by excessive paging.
I usually conclude that I'm running too much crap, which usually is true. After downloading the MVPS-hosts file, disabling a lot of unneeded services, and cleaning the startup-path, everything seems to fly.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
A dev machine with 2GB RAM will suffer far, far worse.
Did I mention I'm coming from a 1Gb laptop running Ubuntu? My last article was written entirely on that machine, including the software :)
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I agree , I just upgraded to a laptop , i7, 8Gb and Win 7 64 from Core 2 with 4Gb and Win 7 32 bit . VS 2010 behaves a lot better , especially with R# installed , the 4gb PC I was getting Out Of Memory errors galore . Whats the line "Why didn't I do it earlier" -- Money as ever Mike
Mike
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Got a new desktop a few weeks ago; a 64-bit monster-machine with 2 Gb of RAM, Windows 7 and Visual Studio 2010. Read a lot of rants when it came out, but it seems to be stable and it's relatively fast. Thank you, a hundred times, for beta-testing the software. Windows 7 is not as much a disaster as everybody claimed. Good luck with Win8 and VS2012 :)
BillWoodruff wrote:
I find it rather amazing that at this time of such sophistication in software, there isn't an un-installer program, produced by Microsoft, that can figure out what needs to be done: and "just do it."
There are Virtual Machines available - don't use your primary environment for experiments, it sucks when you have to live in the ruins of a failed experiment.
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Get more RAM! 2 GB is the minimum recommendation for W7 64 bit alone, VS 2010 requires 1GB for 32 bit development, 2GB for 64 bit. If you use XP compatibility mode, count another 1 GB. And that doesn't include any other tools, or the apps you develop.
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Get more RAM! 2 GB is the minimum recommendation for W7 64 bit alone, VS 2010 requires 1GB for 32 bit development, 2GB for 64 bit. If you use XP compatibility mode, count another 1 GB. And that doesn't include any other tools, or the apps you develop.
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Recommended then. I don't know the rationale - that is what MS says. However, my dev machine has W7 64 bit and with VS 2010 developing 32 bit applications I rarely see memory usage drop below 4GB, so 2 GB is really on the low side. At this moment I run Outlook, VS 2010, and VS 2010. I have 12279MB memory, but only 7930 available. The processes tab only shows less than 1GB of usage, so >3 GB appear to be used by the system, and services. Don't ask me where all that memory goes, but that's 4GB I can't use.
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Recommended then. I don't know the rationale - that is what MS says. However, my dev machine has W7 64 bit and with VS 2010 developing 32 bit applications I rarely see memory usage drop below 4GB, so 2 GB is really on the low side. At this moment I run Outlook, VS 2010, and VS 2010. I have 12279MB memory, but only 7930 available. The processes tab only shows less than 1GB of usage, so >3 GB appear to be used by the system, and services. Don't ask me where all that memory goes, but that's 4GB I can't use.
Currently writing a plugin for VS2010, so yes, I'm launching VS from VS, and am currently using 68% of the available physical memory. Without VS open, 59%. (No WPF UI, nothing fancy)
Stefan_Lang wrote:
The processes tab only shows less than 1GB of usage, so >3 GB appear to be used by the system, and services.
I disabled everything that I'm not using. Do you use the bitlocker service? Bluetooth? Human Interface Device Access? The Media Center Extender Service? :) Windows does a lot of things, and I'm not using most of it. Seems redundant to have services loaded that I do not use.
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Currently writing a plugin for VS2010, so yes, I'm launching VS from VS, and am currently using 68% of the available physical memory. Without VS open, 59%. (No WPF UI, nothing fancy)
Stefan_Lang wrote:
The processes tab only shows less than 1GB of usage, so >3 GB appear to be used by the system, and services.
I disabled everything that I'm not using. Do you use the bitlocker service? Bluetooth? Human Interface Device Access? The Media Center Extender Service? :) Windows does a lot of things, and I'm not using most of it. Seems redundant to have services loaded that I do not use.
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Here at work I'm not supposed to stop any services running on my machine (I once got in to a clash with the head of IT because I killed the antivirus program which I suspected to be the cause for my compiler hanging - and I'm still convinced it was: after killing the antivirus the compiler worked again!). Anyway even after checking
[]show processes of all users, that only accounts for a little more than 1GB of the 4, so I don't think stopping any of these would improve things notably. But then I'm not short of memory right now. P.S.: this makes me wonder if services use memory that is not listed in the task manager (and how you could check this). I did check the Media Center and Bluetooth services (not started), but am unsure about the others due to UI language being german. P.P.S: I did disable the indexer service several years ago, since I tend to start the compiler after extended periods of thinking, and that turned out to be about the same time the OS decided it would be good time to start indexing X|