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The next programming language to learn for a .NET developer ?

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  • E Everything Matters

    I am surprised no one mentioned F# yet ? :(

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    BobJanova
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    Well I was going to but you got there first.

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      I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      Have you tried Brainfuck[^] or INTERCAL[^]?


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Chinese. No, seriously. Look at the way they are gobbling up every other market...

        If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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        Septimus Hedgehog
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        What a mindf**k that'll be. Can you imagine India outsourcing its jobs to China?

        "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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        • E Everything Matters

          I am surprised no one mentioned F# yet ? :(

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          Richard Deeming
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          Seems like a good place to start: http://preview.tryfsharp.org/[^]


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            Have you tried Brainfuck[^] or INTERCAL[^]?


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            Richard Deeming
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            Don't forget Malbolge[^] and Whitespace[^]. ;P


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            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • E Everything Matters

              I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

              Mani

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              AspDotNetDev
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              ASP.NET MVC 4 (+JavaScript, jQuery, CSS). Or maybe that newfangled Windows Runtime stuff (especially XAML).

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

                Mani

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                Terrence Dorsey
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                Does learning yet another way to use .NET really get you anywhere? Maybe learning a new framework (or, dare I say, platform?) would be more beneficial. Expanding horizons and all. It wouldn't hurt to be less career dependent on the future of .NET. But regardless of that, you're likely to encounter some ideas and practices that improve your .NET programming. Barring that, TypeScript looks promising and is a good gateway to what the rest of the world is doing on the web.

                Director of Content Development, The Code Project

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                • E Everything Matters

                  I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

                  Mani

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  If you have a good foundation in a number of languages and paradigms (I can't believe I wrote that) then you will be well-prepared for whatever they throw at you. All general-purpose programming languages do essentially the same things, just differently. Viva la difference!

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                  • T Terrence Dorsey

                    Does learning yet another way to use .NET really get you anywhere? Maybe learning a new framework (or, dare I say, platform?) would be more beneficial. Expanding horizons and all. It wouldn't hurt to be less career dependent on the future of .NET. But regardless of that, you're likely to encounter some ideas and practices that improve your .NET programming. Barring that, TypeScript looks promising and is a good gateway to what the rest of the world is doing on the web.

                    Director of Content Development, The Code Project

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                    irneb
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                    Yep, methinks so too. You're better off being able to jump to anything else than simply learn a new interface into DotNet. From past experience, MS's libraries don't last for much more than 10 years - if they're used a lot, unlike stuff such as SilverLight :laugh: So the much more pertinent question is: What new set of libs should you be on the lookout for. And then you can relax and learn some weird programming concepts (try the strangest language you can find - by all means) to make you a better programmer instead of someone who knows how to look into DotNet from a different angle :zzz: . I'd recommend Lisp & C to start off with. Those 2 would probably give you a grounding for absolutely all possible concepts yet devised in the entire programming field. Thereafter learn languages for fun. Try to make something for another system (e.g. Linux / Mac / Android / etc. etc. etc.) Try to make same portable - to work on any system with only a re-compile at worst! Once you can do all that, you've literally covered all your bases, no way you will get a curve-ball in the head :wtf:

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                    • E Everything Matters

                      I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

                      Mani

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                      dazfuller
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                      C++ and JavaScript are going to take over the world Also, give Go (http://golang.org[^]) a try. There's also a move to functional programming so give Haskell or F# a try And don't forget Python, it's the glue holding everything together. Oh, and if you want to do data analysis then also check out R (http://www.r-project.org/[^])

                      Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines

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                        Don't forget Malbolge[^] and Whitespace[^]. ;P


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                        Alexander DiMauro
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                        How about LOLCODE[^] It even has a .NET compiler: http://code.google.com/p/lolcode-dot-net/[^]

                        I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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                          I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

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                          pinx
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                          It depends if you want to build on your existing experience, or if you want to learn something completely different. Personally, I chose to step into the Ruby on Rails world. It's like emigrating to China (or Japan): different language, but also different habits, conventions, norms, values and brand names ("Capistrano" sounds like a coffee brand). It's hard at first, but fun as well. There's a good free course CS169. Search Youtube as well.

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                            Yep, methinks so too. You're better off being able to jump to anything else than simply learn a new interface into DotNet. From past experience, MS's libraries don't last for much more than 10 years - if they're used a lot, unlike stuff such as SilverLight :laugh: So the much more pertinent question is: What new set of libs should you be on the lookout for. And then you can relax and learn some weird programming concepts (try the strangest language you can find - by all means) to make you a better programmer instead of someone who knows how to look into DotNet from a different angle :zzz: . I'd recommend Lisp & C to start off with. Those 2 would probably give you a grounding for absolutely all possible concepts yet devised in the entire programming field. Thereafter learn languages for fun. Try to make something for another system (e.g. Linux / Mac / Android / etc. etc. etc.) Try to make same portable - to work on any system with only a re-compile at worst! Once you can do all that, you've literally covered all your bases, no way you will get a curve-ball in the head :wtf:

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                            Rob Grainger
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                            To really force yourself to learn functional programming properly, its hard to beat Haskell, as its purity prevents you slipping back into procedural approaches too easily.

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                            • E Everything Matters

                              I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

                              Mani

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                              ISanti
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                              I am in C# and F# for now, my next movement learn C++ for Win RT.

                              Sorry for my bad English

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                              • S Septimus Hedgehog

                                What a mindf**k that'll be. Can you imagine India outsourcing its jobs to China?

                                "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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                                User 9532462
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                                No kidding... India is already outsourcing to Mexico.

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                                  Argonia wrote:

                                  But probably i should first learn English

                                  I was able to understand what you said. So your english can't be too bad :laugh:

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                                  Andrew Rissing
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                                  He's probably just using Google translate ;-)

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                                    I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

                                    Mani

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                                    User 9276933
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                                    Haskel. Functional programing is the future. Seriously.

                                    jdsIII

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                                      Yep, methinks so too. You're better off being able to jump to anything else than simply learn a new interface into DotNet. From past experience, MS's libraries don't last for much more than 10 years - if they're used a lot, unlike stuff such as SilverLight :laugh: So the much more pertinent question is: What new set of libs should you be on the lookout for. And then you can relax and learn some weird programming concepts (try the strangest language you can find - by all means) to make you a better programmer instead of someone who knows how to look into DotNet from a different angle :zzz: . I'd recommend Lisp & C to start off with. Those 2 would probably give you a grounding for absolutely all possible concepts yet devised in the entire programming field. Thereafter learn languages for fun. Try to make something for another system (e.g. Linux / Mac / Android / etc. etc. etc.) Try to make same portable - to work on any system with only a re-compile at worst! Once you can do all that, you've literally covered all your bases, no way you will get a curve-ball in the head :wtf:

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                                      patbob
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                                      irneb wrote:

                                      I'd recommend Lisp & C to start off with

                                      Functional language, yes, C, meh. Unmanaged C++ is probably better than C, you'll learn most of the same fun as C and know the most likely language used to solve problems that don't fit C# and VB* well. After those, as irneb suggests, do some dev for another system. I recommend some mobile development, and android in particular, because its new libs, language, IDE, application model, execution environment, product mentality, etc. all rolled into one.

                                      We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                        I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

                                        Mani

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                                        Leng Vang
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                                        Learn Typescript, can't go wrong. Its the new javascript to be.

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                                        • E Everything Matters

                                          I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ? Cheers.

                                          Mani

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                                          Schmuli
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                                          I know you said a MS standpoint, but what about getting familiar with Mono? You know C# and .NET already, so how about learning how to run it on other platforms? I know if I had the time that is what I would do, even if it's just to see for myself what the differences are.

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