Say a prayer for me...
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I had to code VB6 at my last job. It was a soul strangling, brain bogging, mind mangling, life leaching, hope haranguing, pattern preventing, thought thwarting, steaming pile of crap compressed to its vilest form. Of course, anybody who has worked with it for any stretch of time has long since lost their mind, and any hope that they could engender some redeeming lipstick on the pig is inevitably obliterated. But... um... good luck!
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It's just a programming language that makes computers do stuff. Making comparisons with other languages is pointless. It will not be as easy to do some things, but it will be easier to do other things, and saying "it doesn't do A they way I'm used to doing A, so it's cr@p!" could be seen as arrogance and unwillingness to perform (in fact, it will be, by your manager) (and possibly rightly so). The immediate knee-jerk reaction to any different language is "We could convert this to the language I'm most accustomed to!", but the costs of such a conversion have to be carefully examined, because the benefits of replacing something that works with something that might take a long time to get working to the same standard don't always outweigh those costs. You're in this business to make computers do things. VB is a tool for that. Use the tools you have in your hand. And enjoy it, for crying out loud! VB might not be <insert your language of preference>, but it works, and can be fun to work with!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's just a programming language that makes computers do stuff. Making comparisons with other languages is pointless. It will not be as easy to do some things, but it will be easier to do other things, and saying "it doesn't do A they way I'm used to doing A, so it's cr@p!" could be seen as arrogance and unwillingness to perform (in fact, it will be, by your manager) (and possibly rightly so). The immediate knee-jerk reaction to any different language is "We could convert this to the language I'm most accustomed to!", but the costs of such a conversion have to be carefully examined, because the benefits of replacing something that works with something that might take a long time to get working to the same standard don't always outweigh those costs. You're in this business to make computers do things. VB is a tool for that. Use the tools you have in your hand. And enjoy it, for crying out loud! VB might not be <insert your language of preference>, but it works, and can be fun to work with!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
So, if I was a racing car driver asked to drive a VW Beetle rather than my F1 I should just suck it up and say "I'm in this business to drive cars, a VW Beetle i a tool for that"? I have no desire whatsoever to learn a language that is past its sell by date. Sure I've done som VB in the past - I've also done some COBOL and 6502 Assembler, but wouldn't dream of applying for a job using them; I wouldn't have applied for this job if any significant portion was programming in VB6 Enjoy it? No, I won't. Crying out loud - very probably!
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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Why do you think he left ? :rolleyes:
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Believe it or not, the company was moving him to C# and he left to go to another VB job. Nothing wrong with that, I guess, his comfort zone was VB 6 and he didn't want to move away from it - and there's (hopefully) not enough work at my comapny in VB6 to keep him full time on that. Personally in hi shoes I would have accepted the C# training before jumping ship - but horses for courses.
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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Unfortunately? I enjoyed the pleasures of my marriage ceremony on the south coast of England, where the main traditions seem to involve ensuring the bridesmaids wear rediculous dresses. It may well be as you say at Australian weddings - there is certainly always a barbie where the blokes gather to talk about the size of their v8s and the ladies gather in the kitchen to discuss the latest embroidery techniques. In my case I was referring to jamming my penis into sharp, fast revolving, unstoppable mechanisms - but I can see where you failed to follow my gist.
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
Hi _Maxxx_, By using the word "unfortunately," I did mean to convey that I regret never having the chance to attend an Australian wedding. I very often now, find "gist" so far ahead of me, that I cannot figure out which way it went, and the foot-prints gist leaves behind: they seem to be less-and-less visible now: could be my eyes, or, I wonder, if it could be: that, as one gets older, gist somehow loses physical mass, and therefore leaves a shallower depression, where it has trod, no matter gist walked through dry beach-sand, or mud-sludge ? I am dumbfracked to realize I missed the possible meaning of your tackle=>music-box metaphor as referring to ritual self-castration in the wedding ceremony ! On a ritual level, it makes perfect sense to me that the male should go beyond just "forsaking all others," to forsaking the whole banana ! How could I have forgotten, that Roman followers of the ancient Goddess Cybele, performed exactly such a practice, while dancing in ecstasy in a religious rite, on a day the Romans called "sanguinaria," "the day of blood" ? Surely if this practice happened "back then," (and the practice evidently extended into the Christian era), it is happening somewhere in some culture in the world today, yet, even if the members of that culture are all still using Windows 3.1 on two-color only monitors. Thanks for your illuminating reply ! yours, Bill
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Dr. Philip G. Zimbardo, in "The Lucifer Effect" 2008: ISBN-10: 08129744
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It's just a programming language that makes computers do stuff. Making comparisons with other languages is pointless. It will not be as easy to do some things, but it will be easier to do other things, and saying "it doesn't do A they way I'm used to doing A, so it's cr@p!" could be seen as arrogance and unwillingness to perform (in fact, it will be, by your manager) (and possibly rightly so). The immediate knee-jerk reaction to any different language is "We could convert this to the language I'm most accustomed to!", but the costs of such a conversion have to be carefully examined, because the benefits of replacing something that works with something that might take a long time to get working to the same standard don't always outweigh those costs. You're in this business to make computers do things. VB is a tool for that. Use the tools you have in your hand. And enjoy it, for crying out loud! VB might not be <insert your language of preference>, but it works, and can be fun to work with!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
VB might not be <insert your language of preference>, but it works, and can be fun to work with!
I feel sorry for you if you think VB can be fun to work with. :^)
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