So, Germany then....
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With the examples given I think the German way is much easier to predict before the end of the sentence. " I must go to ......" - Could be going anywhere. " I must to work....." - Can only be 'go' surely?
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So, that marks the end of all confusions....:thumbsup:
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A time ago I found a discussion where someone from England had postet a soundfile in a forum to prove that German is a harsh and ugly language. One of the responses: That's only because you speak it like a Klingon :)
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Kirk for Church, Ken for Know... Scots has a lot of the Old Saxon in it still.
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IMO Dutch is the harshest of languages, it sounds like a 40 a day smoker clearing his throat, every third word. German is quite pleasant by comparison.
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Kirk for Church, Ken for Know... Scots has a lot of the Old Saxon in it still.
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True, and I see potential for more changes to make the language more logical: funken -> gefunkt -> gefonkt, tunken -> getunkt -> getonk
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PB 369,782 wrote:
Can only be 'go' surely?
Crawl? Fly? Sneak? Or simply the word 'not': Zur Arbeit muss ich (heute) nicht. No 'go' in there at all, it's assumed implicitly.
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- scottish sounds a lot like german... for the english anyway (no offense, my mother in law is from scotland)
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Nobody has ever told me they are going to fly, sneak or crawl to work so I think I can safely guess 'go'.
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And they have something against bakers by calling them 'warme bakkers'? Or are they really all gay, like the barbers here?
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PB 369,782 wrote:
Nobody has ever told me they are going to crawl to work
Never had a lunch time drink in the UK then?
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Should have worked in the firm I used to. Holy crap did they like drinking.
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Yeah I use to work at one place where a guy would have 4-5 pints during his 1 hour lunch then come back, sit on his favourite wooden chair and proceed to sleep for the rest of the afternoon. I use to amuse myself by filing a 1/4 inch of one leg of chair and then watching him try to get comfortable before giving up and folding a bit of paper under the shorter leg. The next day I would do another leg. That chair must have been a whole foot smaller by the time I left that company.
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What can I say, it is good. It is pretty, clean, cheap, the people are friendly, and the food is good. Many speak English to some degree, and if you dont I have worked out a formula to speak instant German. Hier es ist...: 1) Speak basic English. ie dont use words of Latin extraction, so you 'seek' rather than 'search'. 2) All undeclined verbs add -en and put at the end of the sentence. 3) Change all 'th' sounds to a 'd'. So 'de' for 'the', 'dis' for 'this'. 4) Learn some odds and ends of usefull vocabulary for words that arent almost the same in English ( eg 'bezahlen', 'to pay', 'ruchnung' for 'bill' (all the usual words you need in pubs and restaurants basically)). 5) Learn a few rules, 'w' sounds like 'v'. 'z' like 't', 's' like 'z'. 6) Learn the pronouns: Ich, Sie, er, es, wir. 7) To put a verb into the past tense add ge- to the beginning and usually change the ending to a kind of d/t sound, like in English: Bring->Brought, and note the same vowel change exists in German, Trinken->Getronk (Drink->Drunk). 8) Use the Scots 'ken' for 'know'. And there you go, Nu kan sie Deutsh spreken! (OK you might sound like a mental retard to them but at least you can get somwhere! :) )
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And the say 'dui dui' when they leave! Just what is that supposed to mean?
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- Simple English Speaken. 2) All undeclined doing-word -en add and at de end of de sentence adden. 3) All 'th' sounds to a 'd' maken. Also 'de' for 'the', 'dis' for 'this' -en. 4) some odds and ends of usefull vocabulary for words that arent almost de same in English learnen 5) Learn a few rules, 'w' sounds like 'v'. 'z' like 't', 's' like 'z'. 6) De pronouns Learnen : Ich, Sie, er, es, wir. 7) To a verb into de past tense put adden ge- to de start and normally de ending to a kind of d/t sound changen. 8) De Scots 'ken' for 'know' usen. Still better than the whole of my pre-GCSE German output. Wanted to take it up to GCSE, but the school forced you to learn French if you only wanted to take one foreign language. I remember my teacher saying this was mad as "Its much easier to pronounce German than French if you are from Newcastle". Take two languages and you had to drop a science topic, so I ended up not taking any. To this day I still don't speak a foreign language properly, the best stab I can have is Arabic, and that at the level of sleeping infant.
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It annoys me greatly how some people can pick up languages. Mrs Wife speaks Hungarian, Arabic, English, and some Italian and French; while I have English and struggle in Hungarian. Even my 8 year old daughter has better Hungarian than me; I think her Mum might be helping her.
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What can I say, it is good. It is pretty, clean, cheap, the people are friendly, and the food is good. Many speak English to some degree, and if you dont I have worked out a formula to speak instant German. Hier es ist...: 1) Speak basic English. ie dont use words of Latin extraction, so you 'seek' rather than 'search'. 2) All undeclined verbs add -en and put at the end of the sentence. 3) Change all 'th' sounds to a 'd'. So 'de' for 'the', 'dis' for 'this'. 4) Learn some odds and ends of usefull vocabulary for words that arent almost the same in English ( eg 'bezahlen', 'to pay', 'ruchnung' for 'bill' (all the usual words you need in pubs and restaurants basically)). 5) Learn a few rules, 'w' sounds like 'v'. 'z' like 't', 's' like 'z'. 6) Learn the pronouns: Ich, Sie, er, es, wir. 7) To put a verb into the past tense add ge- to the beginning and usually change the ending to a kind of d/t sound, like in English: Bring->Brought, and note the same vowel change exists in German, Trinken->Getronk (Drink->Drunk). 8) Use the Scots 'ken' for 'know'. And there you go, Nu kan sie Deutsh spreken! (OK you might sound like a mental retard to them but at least you can get somwhere! :) )
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What can I say, it is good. It is pretty, clean, cheap, the people are friendly, and the food is good. Many speak English to some degree, and if you dont I have worked out a formula to speak instant German. Hier es ist...: 1) Speak basic English. ie dont use words of Latin extraction, so you 'seek' rather than 'search'. 2) All undeclined verbs add -en and put at the end of the sentence. 3) Change all 'th' sounds to a 'd'. So 'de' for 'the', 'dis' for 'this'. 4) Learn some odds and ends of usefull vocabulary for words that arent almost the same in English ( eg 'bezahlen', 'to pay', 'ruchnung' for 'bill' (all the usual words you need in pubs and restaurants basically)). 5) Learn a few rules, 'w' sounds like 'v'. 'z' like 't', 's' like 'z'. 6) Learn the pronouns: Ich, Sie, er, es, wir. 7) To put a verb into the past tense add ge- to the beginning and usually change the ending to a kind of d/t sound, like in English: Bring->Brought, and note the same vowel change exists in German, Trinken->Getronk (Drink->Drunk). 8) Use the Scots 'ken' for 'know'. And there you go, Nu kan sie Deutsh spreken! (OK you might sound like a mental retard to them but at least you can get somwhere! :) )
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