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Is Dawkins Right?

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  • S Septimus Hedgehog

    There are many morons who believe and there are many morons who don't. I don't really see the connection between belief and intelligence.

    If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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    Joezer BH
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    What's up with your shrinking name Les?

    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

    ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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    • N Nicholas Marty

      Maimonides wrote:

      According to "religion" parents make the shell (body) god gives the context (spirit, soul, mind, etc)

      This could start a whole new argument (the existence of a soul). I could argue that you're mind is made from your DNA and from your experiences and that there is no such thing as soul or spirit (other than strong alcoholic beverages ;P)

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      Joezer BH
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      That is true. Other may argue that the fact that you can argue is a proof you have something higher. Of course if you give them enough "spirit" they will revoke those argues and just keep a large grin on their faces. :)

      It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

      ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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      • J Joezer BH

        - According to "religion" parents make the shell (body) god gives the context (spirit, soul, mind, etc) - Don't know what's prevented them. But that's just the fact - Saddam had even installed sings saying "The descendant of mighty Nebuchadnezzar will rebuild these ruins of Babylon" and construction started. He is however busy with other stuff right now... - Yep :)

        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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        I have a hypothesis about where the soul comes from: People want it to exist. They want their consciousness to be special somehow, not just the product of an elaborate electrochemical computer. They want it to be a separate thing, usually so they can then go on to say that it's immortal somehow. Because they're scared of death.

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          I have a hypothesis about where the soul comes from: People want it to exist. They want their consciousness to be special somehow, not just the product of an elaborate electrochemical computer. They want it to be a separate thing, usually so they can then go on to say that it's immortal somehow. Because they're scared of death.

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          Joezer BH
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          People want it to exist

          Where does this will come from?

          It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

          ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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            What's up with your shrinking name Les?

            It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

            ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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            Septimus Hedgehog
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            Purgatory! I went through a phase of being lambasted for posting duplicate thread topics. I was obliged to declare myself unclean, dead and/or alive, hence Leslie Nielsen, and I'm contracting the name. When I reach the point of singularity I will start expanding again but who knows where that will lead? I don't really know myself. ;)

            If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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            • T Tim Carmichael

              From 'Posting Rules for the Lounge': 4. No politics (including enviro-politics[^]), no sex, no religion. This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions. Or if you must, use the Back Room[^] - but enter at your own risk.

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              Keith Barrow
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              Yep. I actually answered, thinking it was in the SB, realised it wasn't then deleted my answers. Needs to be moved.

              PB 369,783 wrote:

              I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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              • D Dalek Dave

                Well, he doesn't have imaginary friends either! See Here[^]

                --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                BobJanova
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                Not even going there, not in the lounge.

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                • Z ZurdoDev

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                  Religious institutions like the christian church have been proved wrong many times

                  How so?

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  Have you ever heard of a man called Galileo?

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                  • S Septimus Hedgehog

                    Purgatory! I went through a phase of being lambasted for posting duplicate thread topics. I was obliged to declare myself unclean, dead and/or alive, hence Leslie Nielsen, and I'm contracting the name. When I reach the point of singularity I will start expanding again but who knows where that will lead? I don't really know myself. ;)

                    If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                    Joezer BH
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                    :laugh: If you ever need another name you might consider a most popular one these days[^]

                    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                    ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                    • J Joezer BH

                      I hear your point Nicholas, though: The Christian church may have been proven wrong, but that does not shed any light on the existence of god question. Another interesting thing to notice is that there are quite a number of prophecies in the old testimony which (up to now as far as I know) have stood their ground completely, which I must say, is quite amazing for a book 3,300 years old (roughly). Further more, around 95% of History's top scientists believed in god. You can believe or not but it is sure foolish to think that your choice of the two is backed up with any scientific finding or that it is smarter to think one way or the other.

                      It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                      ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                      hairy_hats
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                      There is no archaeological evidence that the Israelites were ever in Egypt, therefore the Biblical Exodus cannot have happened, therefore the Biblical account of the founding of Israel cannot be correct...so how much else of it can you rely on?

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                      • J Joezer BH

                        :laugh: If you ever need another name you might consider a most popular one these days[^]

                        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                        Herbisaurus
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                        :omg:

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                        • H hairy_hats

                          Have you ever heard of a man called Galileo?

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                          Lost User
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                          viaducting wrote:

                          Have you ever heard of a man called Galileo?

                          Figaro?

                          “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                          • H hairy_hats

                            Have you ever heard of a man called Galileo?

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            If you have an answer, why not provide it? Don't play silly games. :) Galileo did not prove that religion is wrong. If you are trying to claim he did, I gladly await your reply.

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            • B BobJanova

                              Not even going there, not in the lounge.

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                              Lost User
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                              So basically you hate god? That is the subtle sub-text in your post. If you'd like to know what else you've said just let me know. :-D

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                              • J Joezer BH

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                                People want it to exist

                                Where does this will come from?

                                It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                Interesting question, one that has not really been settled yet. There are some theories[^], but no clear consensus.

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                                • J Joezer BH

                                  Let's all pray that one (randomly) comes soon enough.

                                  It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                  ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                  Lost User
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                                  It would probably increase my chances of finding the right guy if I hang out where scientists hang out. Nightclubs are out... I'll try the Star Trek convention.

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                                  • J Joezer BH

                                    :laugh: If you ever need another name you might consider a most popular one these days[^]

                                    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                    ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                    Septimus Hedgehog
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                                    I might call myself Felicity. Oh, I already do, that's my name at weekends. :laugh:

                                    If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                                    • S Septimus Hedgehog

                                      I might call myself Felicity. Oh, I already do, that's my name at weekends. :laugh:

                                      If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                                      Joezer BH
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                                      :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Stop you are killing me ...

                                      It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                      ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                      • J Joezer BH

                                        :laugh: If you ever need another name you might consider a most popular one these days[^]

                                        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                        Lost User
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                                        The top 10; 1. Harry - not a real name, the diminutive form of Henry 2. Oliver 3. Jack - not a real name, the diminutive form of John 4. Charlie - not a real name 5. Jacob 6. Thomas 7. Alfie - not a real name, good name for a dog perhaps 8. Riley - a Surname, 4,825 parents were confused 9. William 10. James

                                        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          If you have an answer, why not provide it? Don't play silly games. :) Galileo did not prove that religion is wrong. If you are trying to claim he did, I gladly await your reply.

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                          hairy_hats
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                                          ryanb31 wrote:

                                          Galileo did not prove that religion is wrong.

                                          You didn't ask for proof that religion itself was wrong, you asked for proof that "Religious institutions like the christian church have been proved wrong many times" The religious institution that is the Christian church said that the Earth was the centre of the universe, and it was wrong. It said that the universe was only a few thousand years old, and it was wrong. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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