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  • J Joezer BH

    :laugh: If you ever need another name you might consider a most popular one these days[^]

    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

    ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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    Herbisaurus
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    :omg:

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    • H hairy_hats

      Have you ever heard of a man called Galileo?

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      Lost User
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      viaducting wrote:

      Have you ever heard of a man called Galileo?

      Figaro?

      “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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      • H hairy_hats

        Have you ever heard of a man called Galileo?

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        ZurdoDev
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        If you have an answer, why not provide it? Don't play silly games. :) Galileo did not prove that religion is wrong. If you are trying to claim he did, I gladly await your reply.

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        • B BobJanova

          Not even going there, not in the lounge.

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          Lost User
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          So basically you hate god? That is the subtle sub-text in your post. If you'd like to know what else you've said just let me know. :-D

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          • J Joezer BH

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            People want it to exist

            Where does this will come from?

            It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

            ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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            Lost User
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            Interesting question, one that has not really been settled yet. There are some theories[^], but no clear consensus.

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            • J Joezer BH

              Let's all pray that one (randomly) comes soon enough.

              It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

              ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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              Lost User
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              It would probably increase my chances of finding the right guy if I hang out where scientists hang out. Nightclubs are out... I'll try the Star Trek convention.

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              • J Joezer BH

                :laugh: If you ever need another name you might consider a most popular one these days[^]

                It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                Septimus Hedgehog
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                I might call myself Felicity. Oh, I already do, that's my name at weekends. :laugh:

                If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                  I might call myself Felicity. Oh, I already do, that's my name at weekends. :laugh:

                  If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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                  Joezer BH
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                  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Stop you are killing me ...

                  It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                  ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                  • J Joezer BH

                    :laugh: If you ever need another name you might consider a most popular one these days[^]

                    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                    ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                    Lost User
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                    The top 10; 1. Harry - not a real name, the diminutive form of Henry 2. Oliver 3. Jack - not a real name, the diminutive form of John 4. Charlie - not a real name 5. Jacob 6. Thomas 7. Alfie - not a real name, good name for a dog perhaps 8. Riley - a Surname, 4,825 parents were confused 9. William 10. James

                    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      If you have an answer, why not provide it? Don't play silly games. :) Galileo did not prove that religion is wrong. If you are trying to claim he did, I gladly await your reply.

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      hairy_hats
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                      ryanb31 wrote:

                      Galileo did not prove that religion is wrong.

                      You didn't ask for proof that religion itself was wrong, you asked for proof that "Religious institutions like the christian church have been proved wrong many times" The religious institution that is the Christian church said that the Earth was the centre of the universe, and it was wrong. It said that the universe was only a few thousand years old, and it was wrong. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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                      • H hairy_hats

                        ryanb31 wrote:

                        Galileo did not prove that religion is wrong.

                        You didn't ask for proof that religion itself was wrong, you asked for proof that "Religious institutions like the christian church have been proved wrong many times" The religious institution that is the Christian church said that the Earth was the centre of the universe, and it was wrong. It said that the universe was only a few thousand years old, and it was wrong. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        The religious institution that is the Christian church

                        Not true. I think you may mean either the Catholic Church or the Church of England specifically. But as a whole, no, not true.

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Well, he doesn't have imaginary friends either! See Here[^]

                          --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                          peterchen
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                          Right or wrong, he's certainly a zealot. Interestingly enough, I have seen only individual studies quoted in the news, not any data on the aggregated results.

                          ORDER BY what user wants

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                            The religious institution that is the Christian church

                            Not true. I think you may mean either the Catholic Church or the Church of England specifically. But as a whole, no, not true.

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Don't bring the Church of England into this. Galileo had nothing to do with the UK.

                            Chill _Maxxx_
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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              Don't bring the Church of England into this. Galileo had nothing to do with the UK.

                              Chill _Maxxx_
                              CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Perhaps this sounds dumb, and perhaps it is, but didn't the influence of the Church of England extend way beyond what you call the UK? Perhaps you are just being patriotic. :)

                              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                Perhaps this sounds dumb, and perhaps it is, but didn't the influence of the Church of England extend way beyond what you call the UK? Perhaps you are just being patriotic. :)

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                Potato, potato, but I think the phrase you were perhaps looking for was Anglican rather than Church of England.

                                “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                  Potato, potato, but I think the phrase you were perhaps looking for was Anglican rather than Church of England.

                                  “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                  ZurdoDev
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                                  Get off my back. I went to public school in the US. :)

                                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Well, he doesn't have imaginary friends either! See Here[^]

                                    --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                                    Casey Sheridan
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                                    So they happened to pick some intelligent athiests and some not-quite so intelligent "religious people". So what? I know plenty of extrememly intelligent "religious people". You can't put down a person's IQ because of their faith.

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                                    • Z ZurdoDev

                                      Perhaps this sounds dumb, and perhaps it is, but didn't the influence of the Church of England extend way beyond what you call the UK? Perhaps you are just being patriotic. :)

                                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      Given that the Galileo heresy was investigated by the Inquisition, it's highly unlikely that they would have any truck with Anglicanism at this time (bearing in mind that this happened soon after the split of Anglicanism from the Catholic church).

                                      Chill _Maxxx_
                                      CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                                      • J Joezer BH

                                        Statistically speaking: 1. If god exists: a. the the believers have 50% to get to heaven. b. the non-believers have 0%. 2. If god does not exist: - Both have 0% to get to heaven. If is was suitcases and money what would you choose?

                                        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                        Joe Woodbury
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                                        That's Pascal's Wager and assumes an awful lot about the nature of God. For all we know, God is a jerk and randomly lets people into heaven or just tortures everyone or doesn't care.

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                                        • J Joezer BH

                                          - You are definitely a nice secular chap Nicholas, how can someone be offended by you? - Many things that do not exist can be proven not to exist, by contradiction [^] - E.G. there was a prophecy that Babylon, once destroyed will never be built again. Now, this prophecy, hold till now. And many (along some 2,300 years!), have tried rebuilding it, one of which was the late Saddam Hussein. It still lays in ruins. You are welcome to try building it, to prove the prophecy wrong. - I guess I am the outsider now (look at all the hostile posts) :sigh:

                                          It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                          ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                          GuyThiebaut
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                                          Maimonides wrote:

                                          - Many things that do not exist can be proven not to exist, by contradiction [^]

                                          May god strike me down with a bolt of lightening at 17:22 on Tuesday 13 August 2013(UK summer time). To facilitate this I shall now say things in my mind that are not god friendly... Ooh look nothing happened... ;)

                                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                          ― Christopher Hitchens

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