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  • L Lost User

    loctrice wrote:

    should it be a crime

    Yes absolutely it should be a crime. No child, much less an autistic child, should be sent off to go "whaling" unsupervised! Not to mention that whaling is frowned upon in many parts of the world.

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    Not to mention that whaling is frowned upon in many parts of the world.

    I don't know if the custom still exists today but in Jesus's time there were professional wailers that you could hire to mourn with you.

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Not to mention that whaling is frowned upon in many parts of the world.

      I don't know if the custom still exists today but in Jesus's time there were professional wailers that you could hire to mourn with you.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      ryanb31 wrote:

      custom still exists

      I am pretty sure that you can still do this. Seems to me that I heard about this not too long ago. New Orleans maybe. You can hire professional mourners for funerals.

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        ryanb31 wrote:

        custom still exists

        I am pretty sure that you can still do this. Seems to me that I heard about this not too long ago. New Orleans maybe. You can hire professional mourners for funerals.

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        I know a few drama queens that would be great at it. :)

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          I know a few drama queens that would be great at it. :)

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          ryanb31 wrote:

          drama queens

          Pretty sure that I was married to one of them.

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          • L loctrice

            this post[^] I read in the article that the police were looking into the letter. My question is this: Personal matters on the letter itself aside, should it be a crime? Why or why not?

            If it moves, compile it

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            It is hateful and vile and I hope they find out who did it and that they get so many similar letters and are so reviled in their community they have to move. However, I don't think writing a letter that spews hate should be a crime. They have the freedom to speak, and we all have the freedom to speak right back. If there were a specific threat in the letter that would be a different issue.

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            • Z ZurdoDev

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              Not to mention that whaling is frowned upon in many parts of the world.

              I don't know if the custom still exists today but in Jesus's time there were professional wailers that you could hire to mourn with you.

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Indeed. I believe Bob Marley fronted such an organisation.

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                Indeed. I believe Bob Marley fronted such an organisation.

                Chill _Maxxx_
                CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                His organisation would only provide mourners for female funerals. It was on his business card: "No woman, no cry".

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                  His organisation would only provide mourners for female funerals. It was on his business card: "No woman, no cry".

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  At least they provided the sandwiches "Wi' Jam in".

                  Chill _Maxxx_
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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    At least they provided the sandwiches "Wi' Jam in".

                    Chill _Maxxx_
                    CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                    And made sure everyone rose for the hymns: "Get up, stand up"

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                    • F fjdiewornncalwe

                      Probably not a crime, but I think that is too bad. This letter is really no different than a person of one religion telling a person of another religion to leave the neighborhood because of that difference. It is intolerant and full of bigotry in my humble opinion.

                      I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                      Marcus Kramer wrote:

                      This letter is really no different than a person of one religion telling a person of another religion to leave the neighborhood because of that difference

                      Letter seems to make some specific points about actions - not just preferences. But as for your analogy of religion some religions require the sacrifice of animals. Is ok if your neighbor sacrifices a cow on their lawn every Saturday? And invites 100 of their closest friends over to enjoy the festivities for the dawn ceremony? For that matter do you want someone doing that in their house every week? There are of course reasons that health departments inspect meat processors not only to insure the quality of the food that goes out but to insure that the remains are safely disposed of. But perhaps it is ok with you if your neighbor uses their back yard as a midden pit?

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                      • L loctrice

                        this post[^] I read in the article that the police were looking into the letter. My question is this: Personal matters on the letter itself aside, should it be a crime? Why or why not?

                        If it moves, compile it

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                        Is it legal for an adult, who doesn't have any disabilities, to go outside and scream and cry for hours on their front lawn every day? Pretty sure where I am that the police would start getting involved in the situation even if there might not be much they can do. If at night then there is the possibility of a disturbing the peace fine. But presuming it is legal then is it illegal for someone to complain about it? Not to mention of course, but I suppose that most normal people would react negatively to an adult but would want to do something about a child that was crying. And as such if in continued endlessly then it would become emotionally draining. From the letter it also wasn't clear to me where the mother was while this was going on. Perhaps inside enjoying the quiet (since the noise was now outside.)

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                        • L loctrice

                          this post[^] I read in the article that the police were looking into the letter. My question is this: Personal matters on the letter itself aside, should it be a crime? Why or why not?

                          If it moves, compile it

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                          Mycroft Holmes
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                          While I have not read the detail of the letter it sounds like someone who has been pushed beyond her endurance of a screaming child. I presume the words used are pretty vile which probably indicates just how extreme the situation has become. I'd hate to be a neighbor to such an offensive creature and I'd hate to be the mother to such a disabled child. While I would not couch the words in such an offensive manner, nor would I send even a politely worded letter to the mother, I agree that some of the severely disabled should be euthanised. But then there are people like Hawking that completely refute that argument! Nothing is simply black and white.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          • L loctrice

                            this post[^] I read in the article that the police were looking into the letter. My question is this: Personal matters on the letter itself aside, should it be a crime? Why or why not?

                            If it moves, compile it

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                            Erudite_Eric
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                            How can it be a crime, she is only voicing her opinion. Unpleasant she might be, but it is not hate speech. Anyway, she has a point, if the kid is put out in the yard and howls all day then it is a noise disturbance.

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