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  • R Richard Melton

    >Last year they even came close to acquisition by Microsoft. Guess you don't remember this: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-279561.html?legacy=cnet And of those 34, Anders Hejlsberg lead the C# team and Paul Gross is doing something important (tm). Its hard to fight a company with bottomless pockets, especially if they take all of your talent.

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    Richard Melton wrote: _http://news.com.com/2100-1023-279561.html?legacy=cnet_ http://news.com.com/2100-1023-279561.html?legacy=cnet [^] ;P Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST

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      Richard Melton wrote: _http://news.com.com/2100-1023-279561.html?legacy=cnet_ http://news.com.com/2100-1023-279561.html?legacy=cnet [^] ;P Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST

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      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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      Bloody hell! I see what you mean: Yocam maintains that Microsoft is luring personnel away with huge signing bonuses, some in excess of $1 million. "They have the audacity to send limos to Borland's headquarters to take Borland employees out to lunch. I mean, this has got to stop." If true, that's unbelievable. I'd love to see the people responsible for that sort of stunt justify themselves to the Community here, I really would. :suss: Mind you, reading the rest of the article, Microsoft isn't the only company operating this way by any means. :~ Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

      "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
      - Marcia Graesch

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      • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

        Bloody hell! I see what you mean: Yocam maintains that Microsoft is luring personnel away with huge signing bonuses, some in excess of $1 million. "They have the audacity to send limos to Borland's headquarters to take Borland employees out to lunch. I mean, this has got to stop." If true, that's unbelievable. I'd love to see the people responsible for that sort of stunt justify themselves to the Community here, I really would. :suss: Mind you, reading the rest of the article, Microsoft isn't the only company operating this way by any means. :~ Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

        "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
        - Marcia Graesch

        Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++

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        Richard Melton
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        >Mind you, reading the rest of the article, Microsoft isn't the only company operating this way by any means.\ Yea, the thing is that they have sooooo much money. I like capitalism, but capitalism without competition is a bad thing.

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        • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

          Bloody hell! I see what you mean: Yocam maintains that Microsoft is luring personnel away with huge signing bonuses, some in excess of $1 million. "They have the audacity to send limos to Borland's headquarters to take Borland employees out to lunch. I mean, this has got to stop." If true, that's unbelievable. I'd love to see the people responsible for that sort of stunt justify themselves to the Community here, I really would. :suss: Mind you, reading the rest of the article, Microsoft isn't the only company operating this way by any means. :~ Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

          "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
          - Marcia Graesch

          Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++

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          Erik Funkenbusch
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          I'm sorry, but I really don't see anything wrong with hiring people away from a competitor. Employees are people with free will that can make their own decisions about where to work. They are not the property of their employer. Anders in particular has had the opportunity to do something he may not have ever been able to do at Borland, develop his own language from scratch. -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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          • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

            Bloody hell! I see what you mean: Yocam maintains that Microsoft is luring personnel away with huge signing bonuses, some in excess of $1 million. "They have the audacity to send limos to Borland's headquarters to take Borland employees out to lunch. I mean, this has got to stop." If true, that's unbelievable. I'd love to see the people responsible for that sort of stunt justify themselves to the Community here, I really would. :suss: Mind you, reading the rest of the article, Microsoft isn't the only company operating this way by any means. :~ Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

            "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
            - Marcia Graesch

            Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++

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            Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: If true, that's unbelievable Especially because I'm not getting a million dollar hiring bonus to work at Microsoft.

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            • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

              Bloody hell! I see what you mean: Yocam maintains that Microsoft is luring personnel away with huge signing bonuses, some in excess of $1 million. "They have the audacity to send limos to Borland's headquarters to take Borland employees out to lunch. I mean, this has got to stop." If true, that's unbelievable. I'd love to see the people responsible for that sort of stunt justify themselves to the Community here, I really would. :suss: Mind you, reading the rest of the article, Microsoft isn't the only company operating this way by any means. :~ Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

              "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
              - Marcia Graesch

              Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++

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              Marc Clifton
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              Microsoft is luring personnel away with huge signing bonuses, some in excess of $1 million. Hey! Somebody screwed up! I haven't had a limo drive up to MY house to take me out to lunch and lure me away with a $1M signing bonus! Hey Bill!!! You forget about MEEEEE!!!! Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
              Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
              Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
              Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                I can't believe there still kicking. Their products were the best at one point--it would be really a great thing if they became a "contender" again, but alas, I fear it shall not come to pass. :-D Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                Turbo C++ and Turbo Assembler kicked ass! Microsoft had nothing on them on DOS. :) -- Ignorant people upsets me.

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                  Marc Clifton wrote: I can't believe there still kicking. I agree. When I started coding in C++, I used their IDE. Their complier speed was awesome. Marc Clifton wrote: it would be really a great thing if they became a "contender" again, but alas, I fear it shall not come to pass. I wonder how many employees left in that company. They went through several round of layoffs in the last year. Last year they even came close to acquisition by Microsoft. Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST

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                  Coming close to acquisition isn't even close. It was just a rumour

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Microsoft is luring personnel away with huge signing bonuses, some in excess of $1 million. Hey! Somebody screwed up! I haven't had a limo drive up to MY house to take me out to lunch and lure me away with a $1M signing bonus! Hey Bill!!! You forget about MEEEEE!!!! Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                    Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                    Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                    Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                    Rohit Sinha
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                    Marc Clifton wrote: Hey Bill!!! You forget about MEEEEE!!!! No Marc, I remember you. It's just a matter of time dude. And this time I'll not send just one limo, but two, one for your driver and one for you. :rolleyes: :~ And the carrot will be 1 billion instead of that small pocket change of 1 million, so start looking for a beach house at your favorite beach already. :) Signed, William Butler Henry Gates III (that Rohit Sinha is just a fake, man! I'm the real thing, yo!)
                    Regards,

                    Rohit Sinha

                    Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
                    - Abraham Lincoln

                    The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      I can't believe there still kicking. Their products were the best at one point--it would be really a great thing if they became a "contender" again, but alas, I fear it shall not come to pass. :-D Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                      Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                      Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                      Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                      Marc Scheuner
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                      Their products *ARE STILL* by far the best - Delphi kicks butt, neither VC++ nor VB even come CLOSE..... Can't wait to see and use their .NET IDE - VS.NET sucks big time...... And Borland is very healthy, very profitable - good things will be coming from Scotts Valley! Marc (the Swiss one) :-)

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                      • K Kant

                        Marc Clifton wrote: I can't believe there still kicking. I agree. When I started coding in C++, I used their IDE. Their complier speed was awesome. Marc Clifton wrote: it would be really a great thing if they became a "contender" again, but alas, I fear it shall not come to pass. I wonder how many employees left in that company. They went through several round of layoffs in the last year. Last year they even came close to acquisition by Microsoft. Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST

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                        >>I wonder how many employees left in that company. According to finance.yahoo.com, at last count, 1158 - mind you, that's not counting the newly acquired folks from BoldSoft, TogetherSoft, and Starbase Corp. Borland is doing very well, has been profitable for the past several quarters, has lots of cash in the bank - it's a very healthy, and very capable company. I for one am looking forward to Delphi for .NET and the Borland IDE for .NET - BIG TIME! Marc (the Swiss one)

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                        • K Kant

                          Once a Microsoft competitor but now it's mere supporter/ .NET licensee :eek: "The first version of the toolset, code-named Sidewinder, will be a development and design tool for the C# language (pronounced C sharp), Microsoft's alternative to Java. Subsequent versions will support other programming languages." Borland targets .Net developers[^] Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST

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                          KaRl
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                          I think any developper who used the Borlands IDEs has good memories about them. It's :cool: there's a new competitor in the game. It might also be for Java a new step in direction of the programming languages cemetary.


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                          • R Richard Melton

                            >Mind you, reading the rest of the article, Microsoft isn't the only company operating this way by any means.\ Yea, the thing is that they have sooooo much money. I like capitalism, but capitalism without competition is a bad thing.

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                            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                            Richard Melton wrote: Yea, the thing is that they have sooooo much money. I like capitalism, but capitalism without competition is a bad thing. That reminds me of when the state telecoms company here (BT) was privatised by Thatcher in the early 80s...they had no effective competition whatsoever (even today. competion is very limited) and wondered why everybody hated them. ;) Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

                            "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
                            - Marcia Graesch

                            Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++

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