Appreciation / recognition
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Little Johnnie on the board - always recognizable & always unappreciable. :-D
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
I appreciate that you're not smart enough to recognize genious when you see it. ;P
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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Appreciate the example. :)
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
See, you get it :D
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See, you get it :D
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You made Neo(me) understand what is a Matrix :-\
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
you understood the wordplay :-). great minds ... ;P
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Anon wrote:
Who knew sheep snored?
Griff. Griff knows.
speramus in juniperus
I wish I was vain enough to use that out-of-context as my signature! :laugh:
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you understood the wordplay :-). great minds ... ;P
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I wish I was vain enough to use that out-of-context as my signature! :laugh:
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How? Threaten to bankrupt Gordons? :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt -
How? Threaten to bankrupt Gordons? :laugh:
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Looking for appreciation is different from looking for recognition ? What does it mean if someone says, "I'm not looking for recognition, but appreciation" May be recognition would involve tangible rewards in general? and appreciations happens through air?
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
One should look for recognition, appreciation comes later if you offered a good contribution.
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Looking for appreciation is different from looking for recognition ? What does it mean if someone says, "I'm not looking for recognition, but appreciation" May be recognition would involve tangible rewards in general? and appreciations happens through air?
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
I think in this context the meaning of recognition means to be called out in a company email or in a meeting for doing a good job, or an award of some type. Appreciation would be more of an "atta boy" type thing, where good work is recognized but not made into a big formal thing.
CPallini wrote:
You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:
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Looking for appreciation is different from looking for recognition ? What does it mean if someone says, "I'm not looking for recognition, but appreciation" May be recognition would involve tangible rewards in general? and appreciations happens through air?
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
These terms could have many different connotations, or "shades of meaning," depending on the speaker and the social context. Both could be "abstract," or "concrete:" "Recognition" could be as abstract as just meaning that when a person first saw you they knew, instantly, who you were, or remembered meeting you before; or, it could be as concrete as being formally credited in some way for some action, or achievement. "Appreciation" could be as abstract as just referring to a "warm-fuzzy feeling" that someone feels towards you, that they "value" you; or, as concrete as referring to a specific gift given to you, or a service performed for you, as a reward. There could be many scenarios where one could imagine these words being spoken: "I'm not looking for recognition, but appreciation." How about: (yes, fanciful scenarios) 1. said defensively, by a programmer to a manager who is accusing him of being a show-off, and of deliberately making his peers work look second-rate. 2. said in exasperation by a person to someone they love who is always nagging them that they never say much when they are praised, or thanked. 3. said by someone being praised as a form of disclaiming special attention: an expression of modesty. 4. said sarcastically by someone who has been told they won't get a raise this year, but they are getting a new title, and new duties. 6. said to Dr. Jekyll by Mr. Hyde whilst Mr. Hyde is looking in the mirror :)
"What Turing gave us for the first time (and without Turing you just couldn't do any of this) is he gave us a way of thinking about and taking seriously and thinking in a disciplined way about phenomena that have, as I like to say, trillions of moving parts. Until the late 20th century, nobody knew how to take seriously a machine with a trillion moving parts. It's just mind-boggling." Daniel C. Dennett
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I appreciate that you're not smart enough to recognize genious when you see it. ;P
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time -
Looking for appreciation is different from looking for recognition ? What does it mean if someone says, "I'm not looking for recognition, but appreciation" May be recognition would involve tangible rewards in general? and appreciations happens through air?
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
Vunic wrote:
What does it mean if someone says, "I'm not looking for recognition, but appreciation"
I'm taking the approach that "recognition" isn't meant in this context as some neutral thing (as in recognizing bad work) but that it implies a positivity to the work, if that makes sense, so here goes. Recognition would imply some sort of public accolade, award, announcement, credit, etc. Appreciation is usually more private, a bonus, a pat on the back, a...ok, I won't go there..., an extra vacation day, etc. Often, recognition occurs without appreciation - ok, so I got a stupid shiny "good job" trophy that was given to me by the manager in front of the rest of the team, but what I really want is something practical, like a bonus (i.e, appreciation). Conversely, I may get a huge bonus for developing an algorithm to solve failure modes in communication satellites, but what I want is recognition - my name on the patent application. Does that help? Probably not. Anyways, I hope you appreciate the effort, but I don't need recognition ;) Marc
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Vunic wrote:
What does it mean if someone says, "I'm not looking for recognition, but appreciation"
I'm taking the approach that "recognition" isn't meant in this context as some neutral thing (as in recognizing bad work) but that it implies a positivity to the work, if that makes sense, so here goes. Recognition would imply some sort of public accolade, award, announcement, credit, etc. Appreciation is usually more private, a bonus, a pat on the back, a...ok, I won't go there..., an extra vacation day, etc. Often, recognition occurs without appreciation - ok, so I got a stupid shiny "good job" trophy that was given to me by the manager in front of the rest of the team, but what I really want is something practical, like a bonus (i.e, appreciation). Conversely, I may get a huge bonus for developing an algorithm to solve failure modes in communication satellites, but what I want is recognition - my name on the patent application. Does that help? Probably not. Anyways, I hope you appreciate the effort, but I don't need recognition ;) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
Recognition would imply some sort of public accolade, award, announcement, credit, etc.
Appreciation is usually more private, a bonus, a pat on the back, a...ok, I won't go there..., an extra vacation day, etc.Yep you got the it right! My original question was about the subtle differences between these two words in this context.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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These terms could have many different connotations, or "shades of meaning," depending on the speaker and the social context. Both could be "abstract," or "concrete:" "Recognition" could be as abstract as just meaning that when a person first saw you they knew, instantly, who you were, or remembered meeting you before; or, it could be as concrete as being formally credited in some way for some action, or achievement. "Appreciation" could be as abstract as just referring to a "warm-fuzzy feeling" that someone feels towards you, that they "value" you; or, as concrete as referring to a specific gift given to you, or a service performed for you, as a reward. There could be many scenarios where one could imagine these words being spoken: "I'm not looking for recognition, but appreciation." How about: (yes, fanciful scenarios) 1. said defensively, by a programmer to a manager who is accusing him of being a show-off, and of deliberately making his peers work look second-rate. 2. said in exasperation by a person to someone they love who is always nagging them that they never say much when they are praised, or thanked. 3. said by someone being praised as a form of disclaiming special attention: an expression of modesty. 4. said sarcastically by someone who has been told they won't get a raise this year, but they are getting a new title, and new duties. 6. said to Dr. Jekyll by Mr. Hyde whilst Mr. Hyde is looking in the mirror :)
"What Turing gave us for the first time (and without Turing you just couldn't do any of this) is he gave us a way of thinking about and taking seriously and thinking in a disciplined way about phenomena that have, as I like to say, trillions of moving parts. Until the late 20th century, nobody knew how to take seriously a machine with a trillion moving parts. It's just mind-boggling." Daniel C. Dennett
BillWoodruff wrote:
These terms could have many different connotations, or "shades of meaning," depending on the speaker and the social context.
Both could be "abstract," or "concrete:"Yeah you are correct. Please check my reply to Marc below.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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BillWoodruff wrote:
These terms could have many different connotations, or "shades of meaning," depending on the speaker and the social context.
Both could be "abstract," or "concrete:"Yeah you are correct. Please check my reply to Marc below.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
