Will the US become a theocracy?

[Lost User]

KaЯl wrote: Do they also believe Earth is the center of the Universe? No, Washington :~ The tigress is here :-D

[Lost User]

From the article: "But governments can and should support effective social services provided by religious people, so long as they work, and as long as those services go to anyone in need, regardless of their faith" "Declaring that discrimination against religious charitable groups should end, the president said, "If a charity's helping the needy, it should not matter if there's a rabbi on the board or a cross on the wall or a crescent on the wall or a religious commitment in the charter." Just an observation for those who haven't read it. The tigress is here :-D

[Anna Jayne Metcalfe]

Trollslayer wrote: "But governments can and should support effective social services provided by religious people, so long as they work, and as long as those services go to anyone in need, regardless of their faith" "Declaring that discrimination against religious charitable groups should end, the president said, "If a charity's helping the needy, it should not matter if there's a rabbi on the board or a cross on the wall or a crescent on the wall or a religious commitment in the charter." Nothing wrong with that at all. Some of the Christian Aid groups (Tear Fund spring to mind) are doing amazing things out there, and certainly have my support. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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[KaRl]

:-D Or their navel?

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[Stan Shannon]

Ed Gadziemski wrote: idiots like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, et.al. They don't scare me nearly as much as you do. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

[Ed Gadziemski]

They don't scare me nearly as much as you do. The truth hurts, doesn't it. All those religious quacks preying on feeble minds like yours must be stopped. You don't even realize how brainwashed you are.

[Stan Shannon]

It is my loathing of any religion which makes me fear you. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

[Ed Gadziemski]

It is my loathing of any religion which makes me fear you. :confused: As an atheist, I have somehow missed your point. Please elaborate. Are you for or against the US becoming a theocracy? In my opinion, we are getting closer and closer. The 1st Amendment line between church and state is becoming very thin.

[Stan Shannon]

Ed Gadziemski wrote: Are you for or against the US becoming a theocracy? In my opinion, we are getting closer and closer. We are, but the threat is not coming from christianity to is coming from the direction of anti-christians. Religion, as such, serves the purpose of establish a set of moral parameters. Christianity is merely one means of doing that. The secular left-wing has a moral agenda which has displaced the moral authority of more tradtional religions. The politics of the left *is* a set of religious values being used to purposefully replace Christianity. While not overtly religious, and perhaps an athiest, I do try to adher to a set of Christian values as I understand them. I do not appreciate being compelled by the state to subvert my values for those of an alien religion (Secular Humanism, or whatever you want to call it). The first amendment asserts free exercise of religion much more firmly than it asserts "separation" of church and state. What is the purpose of having spearation of church and state if the state merely assumes the role of a church in the promulgation of its own moral agenda while overtly supressing competing codes of moral ethics? That *is* a theocracy, full blown and well established. You are comfortable with it because it is a theocracy of values that you subscribe to. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

[Ed Gadziemski]

What is the purpose of having spearation of church and state if the state merely assumes the role of a church in the promulgation of its own moral agenda while overtly supressing competing codes of moral ethics? Are you saying that John Ashcroft's moral agenda is the correct one? Do you think the statue of Justice needs a sheet covering her breasts? You are comfortable with it because it is a theocracy of values that you subscribe to. That is an overgeneralization based on your assumption of my beliefs. I'm a liberal regarding intellectual pursuits, a libertarian regarding limited government, and a conservative regarding fiscal policy. Conservative, that is, in the older sense, where you don't run massive budget deficits. Unlike Bush & Co., I want balanced budgets, low spending, and low taxes.