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    Eric Goedhart
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    Hi, Last night I posted a Tip pointing to this [.PDF document] since I thought It might be helpful information. This Tip was rejected and I received this message:

    Quote:

    The post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..

    The thing is that I didn't intend to make it clear or write anything about it at all (I did give an indication of the contents of the document and the author) but just was passing a link to this document but apparently that's not allowed. I'm wondering now if, when I come along some information I find useful and think others might also be interested in , how I should post this information and pass a link to it?

    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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      Hi, Last night I posted a Tip pointing to this [.PDF document] since I thought It might be helpful information. This Tip was rejected and I received this message:

      Quote:

      The post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..

      The thing is that I didn't intend to make it clear or write anything about it at all (I did give an indication of the contents of the document and the author) but just was passing a link to this document but apparently that's not allowed. I'm wondering now if, when I come along some information I find useful and think others might also be interested in , how I should post this information and pass a link to it?

      With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      Two things come to mind - bugs and sugs is where this should be asked, the denizens of the Lounge, while opinionated, are not the people to answer this. The other is, I wonder why this has not been addressed before, are you the first to post a useful link. Possibly free tools but this is info only, probably in the Insider News.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        Two things come to mind - bugs and sugs is where this should be asked, the denizens of the Lounge, while opinionated, are not the people to answer this. The other is, I wonder why this has not been addressed before, are you the first to post a useful link. Possibly free tools but this is info only, probably in the Insider News.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        Eric Goedhart
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        Hi, Thanks for your opinion. I don't think I'm the first to post a useful link and that's why I don't understand the why I've got this message.

        With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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        • E Eric Goedhart

          Hi, Last night I posted a Tip pointing to this [.PDF document] since I thought It might be helpful information. This Tip was rejected and I received this message:

          Quote:

          The post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..

          The thing is that I didn't intend to make it clear or write anything about it at all (I did give an indication of the contents of the document and the author) but just was passing a link to this document but apparently that's not allowed. I'm wondering now if, when I come along some information I find useful and think others might also be interested in , how I should post this information and pass a link to it?

          With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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          Marco Bertschi
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          Haven't seen the Tip, but Link-only Tips got a decrease after Mighty Maunder introduced References, ao you might want to go with a Reference.

          I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

          How to ask a question

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            Haven't seen the Tip, but Link-only Tips got a decrease after Mighty Maunder introduced References, ao you might want to go with a Reference.

            I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

            How to ask a question

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            Eric Goedhart
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            Hi Marco, Thanks for your explanation.

            With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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            • E Eric Goedhart

              Hi, Last night I posted a Tip pointing to this [.PDF document] since I thought It might be helpful information. This Tip was rejected and I received this message:

              Quote:

              The post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..

              The thing is that I didn't intend to make it clear or write anything about it at all (I did give an indication of the contents of the document and the author) but just was passing a link to this document but apparently that's not allowed. I'm wondering now if, when I come along some information I find useful and think others might also be interested in , how I should post this information and pass a link to it?

              With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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              Rob Philpott
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              I can understand your frustration. Sounds like the power to veto things has gone to somebody's head.

              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                I can understand your frustration. Sounds like the power to veto things has gone to somebody's head.

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                Eric Goedhart
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                Hi Rob, Indeed it is frustrating to see that information that I think can be very useful to others to understand what is going on within the ASP.NET MVC process is down voted, especially when I personally didn't feel that I did something wrong with the posting. Getting an email saying:

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                This item's quality is too poor to be published.

                ,made me say W** , I stated clearly that I wanted this under the Tip / Trick subject and the post was very clear about the topic and what information to expect. It's fine with me when CP doesn't want these type of tips but I think that the .PDF poster with a graphic representation of the ASP.NET MVC process is a standard way of presenting information.

                With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  Two things come to mind - bugs and sugs is where this should be asked, the denizens of the Lounge, while opinionated, are not the people to answer this. The other is, I wonder why this has not been addressed before, are you the first to post a useful link. Possibly free tools but this is info only, probably in the Insider News.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  DeathByChocolate
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                  Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                  the denizens of the Lounge, while opinionated

                  Really? ... I never noticed! ;)

                  "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                  • E Eric Goedhart

                    Hi, Last night I posted a Tip pointing to this [.PDF document] since I thought It might be helpful information. This Tip was rejected and I received this message:

                    Quote:

                    The post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..

                    The thing is that I didn't intend to make it clear or write anything about it at all (I did give an indication of the contents of the document and the author) but just was passing a link to this document but apparently that's not allowed. I'm wondering now if, when I come along some information I find useful and think others might also be interested in , how I should post this information and pass a link to it?

                    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                    Lost User
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                    I think the votes were probably correct (my opinionated view), although I would probably have ignored the post since it's on a subject that I know nothing about. Having said that, a link to that document does not really explain anything, and since it is already published on the internet it is easy for anyone else to find. Tips and tricks are supposed to be explanations (generally with code) of things that cannor be found elsewhere.

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                      Hi Rob, Indeed it is frustrating to see that information that I think can be very useful to others to understand what is going on within the ASP.NET MVC process is down voted, especially when I personally didn't feel that I did something wrong with the posting. Getting an email saying:

                      Quote:

                      This item's quality is too poor to be published.

                      ,made me say W** , I stated clearly that I wanted this under the Tip / Trick subject and the post was very clear about the topic and what information to expect. It's fine with me when CP doesn't want these type of tips but I think that the .PDF poster with a graphic representation of the ASP.NET MVC process is a standard way of presenting information.

                      With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                      Lost User
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                      I can see exactly why you may wish to post this to help others. I did not see your submission so I don't know in what form it was presented. However a very common response to posters in the Q&A is "Have you tried Google". If it is something which a simple Google search brings up why add it here? A tip I would have thought adds something new.

                      Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                        I can see exactly why you may wish to post this to help others. I did not see your submission so I don't know in what form it was presented. However a very common response to posters in the Q&A is "Have you tried Google". If it is something which a simple Google search brings up why add it here? A tip I would have thought adds something new.

                        Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                        Rob Philpott
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                        Because we don't always searching for things. It's good to browse, to learn stuff about things that we may not have an immediate need for but that helps widen our knowledge. The point of it being a tip is that it's a recommendation, and that adds value.

                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                          Because we don't always searching for things. It's good to browse, to learn stuff about things that we may not have an immediate need for but that helps widen our knowledge. The point of it being a tip is that it's a recommendation, and that adds value.

                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                          chriselst
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                          Quite. How do you search for something that you don't know you need?

                          Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                            I think the votes were probably correct (my opinionated view), although I would probably have ignored the post since it's on a subject that I know nothing about. Having said that, a link to that document does not really explain anything, and since it is already published on the internet it is easy for anyone else to find. Tips and tricks are supposed to be explanations (generally with code) of things that cannor be found elsewhere.

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                            Rob Philpott
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                            Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                            Tips and tricks are supposed to be explanations (generally with code) of things that cannor be found elsewhere.

                            I'd suggest that pretty much anything on this website can be found in a similar form elsewhere. It's just an almighty refactoring of knowledge already known. And I can't see why a pointer to a good article needs to be removed when someone recommends it as a tip, for that's exactly what it is.

                            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                              Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                              the denizens of the Lounge, while opinionated

                              Really? ... I never noticed! ;)

                              "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                              Mycroft Holmes
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                              Too many Lindt Balls

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              • R Rob Philpott

                                Because we don't always searching for things. It's good to browse, to learn stuff about things that we may not have an immediate need for but that helps widen our knowledge. The point of it being a tip is that it's a recommendation, and that adds value.

                                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                Lost User
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                                The sentiment is a good one but I suspect reality gives it a wide berth.

                                Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                                • E Eric Goedhart

                                  Hi, Last night I posted a Tip pointing to this [.PDF document] since I thought It might be helpful information. This Tip was rejected and I received this message:

                                  Quote:

                                  The post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..

                                  The thing is that I didn't intend to make it clear or write anything about it at all (I did give an indication of the contents of the document and the author) but just was passing a link to this document but apparently that's not allowed. I'm wondering now if, when I come along some information I find useful and think others might also be interested in , how I should post this information and pass a link to it?

                                  With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  In much the way that we have an article that's available for anyone to edit about useful programming books, perhaps you could have created a reference article of useful reference links. Make it editable by the community and it could become a valuable resource. If I were doing this, I'd put headings for the areas the links are about, e.g. ASP.NET MVC, and then have a table containing a brief description of the problem being solved and a link to the item you're referencing.

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                                  • E Eric Goedhart

                                    Hi, Last night I posted a Tip pointing to this [.PDF document] since I thought It might be helpful information. This Tip was rejected and I received this message:

                                    Quote:

                                    The post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..

                                    The thing is that I didn't intend to make it clear or write anything about it at all (I did give an indication of the contents of the document and the author) but just was passing a link to this document but apparently that's not allowed. I'm wondering now if, when I come along some information I find useful and think others might also be interested in , how I should post this information and pass a link to it?

                                    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                                    Lost User
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                                    A hyperlink is not a tip, nor an article. If it's not news, then you'd best post it on Twatter. EVERY article here on CP could potentially be posted as an 'interesting hyperlink'. People don't come here for interesting links, they use Google for that.

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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