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    Colborne_Greg
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    Why is it that for years now Microsoft has been saying windows has gone to a consecutive roll out plan from now on, did everyone miss this? First comes 8 Then 8.1 Then 8.2 Then 8.3 Windows 8 brings in a paradigm shift, metro is the .net framework, and the desktop is compatibility mode. The concept of windows 8 is to bring the world slowly into windows 9 which does not have the desktop. Windows 9 is nothing like windows 7.

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      Why is it that for years now Microsoft has been saying windows has gone to a consecutive roll out plan from now on, did everyone miss this? First comes 8 Then 8.1 Then 8.2 Then 8.3 Windows 8 brings in a paradigm shift, metro is the .net framework, and the desktop is compatibility mode. The concept of windows 8 is to bring the world slowly into windows 9 which does not have the desktop. Windows 9 is nothing like windows 7.

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      Colborne_Greg wrote:

      Windows 9 is nothing like windows 7.

      Not according to Mary Jo[^]

      Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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        Why is it that for years now Microsoft has been saying windows has gone to a consecutive roll out plan from now on, did everyone miss this? First comes 8 Then 8.1 Then 8.2 Then 8.3 Windows 8 brings in a paradigm shift, metro is the .net framework, and the desktop is compatibility mode. The concept of windows 8 is to bring the world slowly into windows 9 which does not have the desktop. Windows 9 is nothing like windows 7.

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        Dave Calkins
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        I don't think Windows 8 was a paradigm shift. Metro didn't replace the desktop, rather metro was added as a way to create fullscreen touch-centric store apps. The desktop isn't going anywhere according to MS. I think the error in Win8 was pushing the metro environment too hard when it doesn't really have the ability to replace the desktop. Perhaps great for certain devices but not something for all use cases.

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          Why is it that for years now Microsoft has been saying windows has gone to a consecutive roll out plan from now on, did everyone miss this? First comes 8 Then 8.1 Then 8.2 Then 8.3 Windows 8 brings in a paradigm shift, metro is the .net framework, and the desktop is compatibility mode. The concept of windows 8 is to bring the world slowly into windows 9 which does not have the desktop. Windows 9 is nothing like windows 7.

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          Valery Possoz
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          If windows 9 has no desktop, I'll buy a Mac and register to iCodeProject... I don't believe a second the desktop is going away! not now, not in the next 5-10 years. The desktop is where the vast majority of business softwares run. Business is where Microsoft makes more than 55% of its income! Unless Microsoft suddenly decides they want to die overnight there's not a chance they dump the desktop in the short to medium term! Windows 8 was another Vista disaster, I doubt Windows 9 will be Vista 3.0!!

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            If windows 9 has no desktop, I'll buy a Mac and register to iCodeProject... I don't believe a second the desktop is going away! not now, not in the next 5-10 years. The desktop is where the vast majority of business softwares run. Business is where Microsoft makes more than 55% of its income! Unless Microsoft suddenly decides they want to die overnight there's not a chance they dump the desktop in the short to medium term! Windows 8 was another Vista disaster, I doubt Windows 9 will be Vista 3.0!!

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Valery Possoz wrote:

            Windows 8 was another Vista disaster

            Vista was ME 2.0 :-D

            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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              Valery Possoz wrote:

              Windows 8 was another Vista disaster

              Vista was ME 2.0 :-D

              You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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              Ah, but ME was DOS4.0.2.0! :laugh:

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                Why is it that for years now Microsoft has been saying windows has gone to a consecutive roll out plan from now on, did everyone miss this? First comes 8 Then 8.1 Then 8.2 Then 8.3 Windows 8 brings in a paradigm shift, metro is the .net framework, and the desktop is compatibility mode. The concept of windows 8 is to bring the world slowly into windows 9 which does not have the desktop. Windows 9 is nothing like windows 7.

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                Mark_Wallace
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                They're calling it "threshold", apparently. I'll wait until they've gone all the way through the door, before I spend any time considering a purchase.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Why is it that for years now Microsoft has been saying windows has gone to a consecutive roll out plan from now on, did everyone miss this? First comes 8 Then 8.1 Then 8.2 Then 8.3 Windows 8 brings in a paradigm shift, metro is the .net framework, and the desktop is compatibility mode. The concept of windows 8 is to bring the world slowly into windows 9 which does not have the desktop. Windows 9 is nothing like windows 7.

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                  peterchen
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                  Meh. Right now and for the forseeable future, desktop is the sole reason for the PC to exist.

                  ORDER BY what user wants

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                    Colborne_Greg wrote:

                    Windows 9 is nothing like windows 7.

                    Not according to Mary Jo[^]

                    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                    Not according to some Mary chick or "according to my sources." she says - which is not Microsoft.

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                      I don't think Windows 8 was a paradigm shift. Metro didn't replace the desktop, rather metro was added as a way to create fullscreen touch-centric store apps. The desktop isn't going anywhere according to MS. I think the error in Win8 was pushing the metro environment too hard when it doesn't really have the ability to replace the desktop. Perhaps great for certain devices but not something for all use cases.

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                      I don't care what you think. The dot net framework is a paradigm shift which happened in 2003, and metro is the dot net framework as an operating system and the desktop is nothing but the old code. Get over it.

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                        If windows 9 has no desktop, I'll buy a Mac and register to iCodeProject... I don't believe a second the desktop is going away! not now, not in the next 5-10 years. The desktop is where the vast majority of business softwares run. Business is where Microsoft makes more than 55% of its income! Unless Microsoft suddenly decides they want to die overnight there's not a chance they dump the desktop in the short to medium term! Windows 8 was another Vista disaster, I doubt Windows 9 will be Vista 3.0!!

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                        Then buy a mac now.

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                          They're calling it "threshold", apparently. I'll wait until they've gone all the way through the door, before I spend any time considering a purchase.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Colborne_Greg
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                          I don't care if you purchase it

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                            Valery Possoz wrote:

                            Windows 8 was another Vista disaster

                            Vista was ME 2.0 :-D

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            Vista was longhorn 2.0 XP was ME + windows 2000 Windows 8 is XP + Vista - oh look its all of them. Go buy a mac

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                              Meh. Right now and for the forseeable future, desktop is the sole reason for the PC to exist.

                              ORDER BY what user wants

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                              Colborne_Greg
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                              Said the dinosaur

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                                Not according to some Mary chick or "according to my sources." she says - which is not Microsoft.

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                                Ummmm.... most of Mary Jo's sources are inside Microsoft or very closely related (very large developers who get pre-release information). She's not always 100% accurate but she's way more accurate than some random guy on an online forum (cough... cough...).

                                Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                                  Ummmm.... most of Mary Jo's sources are inside Microsoft or very closely related (very large developers who get pre-release information). She's not always 100% accurate but she's way more accurate than some random guy on an online forum (cough... cough...).

                                  Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                                  Colborne_Greg
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                                  The consecutive roll out was taught in class from my teacher who works for Microsoft training me to work for Microsoft. When someone is wrong about news you should stop listening to them.

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                                    Vista was longhorn 2.0 XP was ME + windows 2000 Windows 8 is XP + Vista - oh look its all of them. Go buy a mac

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                    Vista was longhorn 2.0

                                    Longhorn was the code name of Vista. I have the beta. :cool:

                                    Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                    Go buy a mac

                                    Never! X|

                                    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                      Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                      Vista was longhorn 2.0

                                      Longhorn was the code name of Vista. I have the beta. :cool:

                                      Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                      Go buy a mac

                                      Never! X|

                                      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                      Colborne_Greg
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                                      Chicken before the egg. Longhorn is an operating system without purpose created right out of the box with the .net framework 1.1. Vista is an attempt to make money off an incomplete project, and is the only reason it failed. Windows 8 is also longhorn. I was trained by Microsoft in 2002 in .net 1.1 before it was publicly released, we used to say longhorn, in it for the long haul.

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                                        The consecutive roll out was taught in class from my teacher who works for Microsoft training me to work for Microsoft. When someone is wrong about news you should stop listening to them.

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                                        Joe Woodbury
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                                        If he works at Microsoft, he'd be under non-disclosure. As for the update; not having more consistent roll-up updates was a big mistake in XP and Windows 7. Everything I've read indicates that Windows 9 is still on schedule for April 2015. BTW, all that said, I think Microsoft is now changing version numbers too fast! The Visual Studio situation is especially annoying.

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                                          Chicken before the egg. Longhorn is an operating system without purpose created right out of the box with the .net framework 1.1. Vista is an attempt to make money off an incomplete project, and is the only reason it failed. Windows 8 is also longhorn. I was trained by Microsoft in 2002 in .net 1.1 before it was publicly released, we used to say longhorn, in it for the long haul.

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                                          Joe Woodbury
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                                          I don't know where you're getting your information nor why you are acting so rude. I suggest going to Paul Thurrott's http://winsupersite.com/[^] which has good information. Here is [one of] his "article[s]" on Longhorn: http://winsupersite.com/article/faqtip/windows-longhorn-faq[^]

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