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  • U User 10246491

    Anyone know this new short syntax method of LINQ queries ? http://bwqs.codeplex.com

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    Pete OHanlon
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    My eyes. They burn. That looks like the coding equivalent of the Bieber-beast Seriously, why? The whole point about LINQ is that it's a natural looking syntax. This takes terse to the nth degree. While it might be clever, I have to ask what problem domain you're attempting to solve here. Why should I invest my time learning this?

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      I suspect if something like that will get approved as article here at CP. I did not even felt like reading it considering how difficult it was to read unformatted code. Yes, I am that lazy.

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      Hi, A version with a more detailed content more examples was posted and is awaiting approval for publication of the article. Meanwhile you can get an idea of the concept in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLdIS809wBA http://youtu.be/BeFFYMJL9e4 Tks for reading ! Regards ;-)

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        Yuck. Marc

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        :thumbsup:

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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        • R Rage

          OK. BTW there is an error in your code, a semi-colon is missing on line 35, so the copy&paste does not compile.

          ~RaGE();

          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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          Hi Rage, Tks for your reply. The Project Portal on CodePlex contains an Test Package functional, check-it : http://bwqs.codeplex.com/releases/view/127212 Regards ;-)

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          • U User 10246491

            Yes, your first ideia is correct ! I created myself and try to disseminate and get feedback from the community on this new concept. Your guess is that is not correct. I never would post spam in such a prestigious community like CodeProject. Regards.

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            Member 10277067 wrote:

            I never would post spam in such a prestigious community like CodeProject.

            And yet you did. QED.

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              My eyes. They burn. That looks like the coding equivalent of the Bieber-beast Seriously, why? The whole point about LINQ is that it's a natural looking syntax. This takes terse to the nth degree. While it might be clever, I have to ask what problem domain you're attempting to solve here. Why should I invest my time learning this?

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              User 10246491
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              Hi, Tks for your reply. Why community currently uses JQuery in large scale ? THINK MORE. WRITE LESS ! ;-) Regards

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                Member 10277067 wrote:

                I never would post spam in such a prestigious community like CodeProject.

                And yet you did. QED.

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                User 10246491
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                It's a discussion in The Lounge, not SPAM. Regards

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  Member 10277067 wrote:

                  I never would post spam in such a prestigious community like CodeProject.

                  And yet you did. QED.

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                  Some people do not understand sarcasm[^]. :rolleyes:

                  ~RaGE();

                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                  • U User 10246491

                    It's a discussion in The Lounge, not SPAM. Regards

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                    Spam is in the eye of the beholder. Otherwise there would be no such term.

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                    • U User 10246491

                      Hi, Tks for your reply. Why community currently uses JQuery in large scale ? THINK MORE. WRITE LESS ! ;-) Regards

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                      No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less. Effort "saved" up front often leads to greater effort later.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        The bloke who wrote the article probably does. Me? I think there is enough confusion available in LINQ without needing extra compact stuff that looks like a regex - i.e. unreadable without a good long look.

                        You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        Me? I think there is enough confusion available in LINQ without needing extra compact stuff that looks like a regex - i.e. unreadable without a good long look.

                        It's like the rule 34 of coding: Within two years of its creation, a programming language that is easily usable will have been turned into a writhing mess of ridiculous complications. [edit] I typoed "writhing", fer cryin' out loud!

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        • R Rage

                          Some people do not understand sarcasm[^]. :rolleyes:

                          ~RaGE();

                          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                          And then you get a sarchasm[^]

                          You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          • U User 10246491

                            This approach refers to a Bitwise combinations syntax, precisely the opposite way of Natural Language. Regards

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                            Member 10277067 wrote:

                            This approach refers to a Bitwise combinations syntax,
                            precisely the opposite way of Natural Language.

                            I understand that, but the point of a natural language syntax is that it is readable, more or less, without an internal translation layer on the part of the reader. Like any syntax, it probably could become second nature (like how | is a bitwise OR and || is a logical OR), but I completely fail to see the advantage of using the syntax in your short LINQ examples. Marc

                            Automating Semantic Mapping of a Document With Natural Language Processing

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less. Effort "saved" up front often leads to greater effort later.

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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less.

                              Very well said! Marc

                              Automating Semantic Mapping of a Document With Natural Language Processing

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                                No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less. Effort "saved" up front often leads to greater effort later.

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                                :thumbsup: At times like this, I wish I could hit the upvote button a couple of dozen times...

                                You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                  Hi, Tks for your reply. Why community currently uses JQuery in large scale ? THINK MORE. WRITE LESS ! ;-) Regards

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  You aren't comparing like with like. jQuery serves a purpose - making DOM manipulation consistent across browsers. You might want to think more before you pick your analogies.

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                                    No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less. Effort "saved" up front often leads to greater effort later.

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                                    User 10246491
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                                    PIEBALDconsult Please, The issue here is the discussion of a new possible concept, we can discuss about best practices of coding in another post. :zzz: Read the things before show yourself to the readers ! Regards.

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      :thumbsup: At times like this, I wish I could hit the upvote button a couple of dozen times...

                                      You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                                      User 10246491
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                                      I respect your point of view. Thank you!

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                                      • P Pete OHanlon

                                        You aren't comparing like with like. jQuery serves a purpose - making DOM manipulation consistent across browsers. You might want to think more before you pick your analogies.

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                                        User 10246491
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                                        The slogan says itself : jQuery => Write Less, Do More ;-) The analogy was cited in this regard. Thanks for your comment.

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                                        • U User 10246491

                                          The slogan says itself : jQuery => Write Less, Do More ;-) The analogy was cited in this regard. Thanks for your comment.

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          Have you ever heard of an elevator pitch? You have a product that you're trying to get us interested in here. You have 60 seconds to tell us what problem you're trying to solve here and how it does it. Taking jQuery as an example - the problem is different browsers have different HTML implementations; jQuery provides a consistent API that works regardless of the underlying browser. That's an easy problem domain to define, and an easy solution to sell. What problem are you trying to solve? What can I not do today that this will solve for me?

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