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  • U User 10246491

    Yes, your first ideia is correct ! I created myself and try to disseminate and get feedback from the community on this new concept. Your guess is that is not correct. I never would post spam in such a prestigious community like CodeProject. Regards.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Member 10277067 wrote:

    I never would post spam in such a prestigious community like CodeProject.

    And yet you did. QED.

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      My eyes. They burn. That looks like the coding equivalent of the Bieber-beast Seriously, why? The whole point about LINQ is that it's a natural looking syntax. This takes terse to the nth degree. While it might be clever, I have to ask what problem domain you're attempting to solve here. Why should I invest my time learning this?

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      Hi, Tks for your reply. Why community currently uses JQuery in large scale ? THINK MORE. WRITE LESS ! ;-) Regards

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        Member 10277067 wrote:

        I never would post spam in such a prestigious community like CodeProject.

        And yet you did. QED.

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        User 10246491
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        It's a discussion in The Lounge, not SPAM. Regards

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          Member 10277067 wrote:

          I never would post spam in such a prestigious community like CodeProject.

          And yet you did. QED.

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          Some people do not understand sarcasm[^]. :rolleyes:

          ~RaGE();

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            It's a discussion in The Lounge, not SPAM. Regards

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            Spam is in the eye of the beholder. Otherwise there would be no such term.

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            • U User 10246491

              Hi, Tks for your reply. Why community currently uses JQuery in large scale ? THINK MORE. WRITE LESS ! ;-) Regards

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less. Effort "saved" up front often leads to greater effort later.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                The bloke who wrote the article probably does. Me? I think there is enough confusion available in LINQ without needing extra compact stuff that looks like a regex - i.e. unreadable without a good long look.

                You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                Me? I think there is enough confusion available in LINQ without needing extra compact stuff that looks like a regex - i.e. unreadable without a good long look.

                It's like the rule 34 of coding: Within two years of its creation, a programming language that is easily usable will have been turned into a writhing mess of ridiculous complications. [edit] I typoed "writhing", fer cryin' out loud!

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • U User 10246491

                  This approach refers to a Bitwise combinations syntax, precisely the opposite way of Natural Language. Regards

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Member 10277067 wrote:

                  This approach refers to a Bitwise combinations syntax,
                  precisely the opposite way of Natural Language.

                  I understand that, but the point of a natural language syntax is that it is readable, more or less, without an internal translation layer on the part of the reader. Like any syntax, it probably could become second nature (like how | is a bitwise OR and || is a logical OR), but I completely fail to see the advantage of using the syntax in your short LINQ examples. Marc

                  Automating Semantic Mapping of a Document With Natural Language Processing

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                    Some people do not understand sarcasm[^]. :rolleyes:

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    And then you get a sarchasm[^]

                    You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less. Effort "saved" up front often leads to greater effort later.

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less.

                      Very well said! Marc

                      Automating Semantic Mapping of a Document With Natural Language Processing

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                      • U User 10246491

                        Hi, Tks for your reply. Why community currently uses JQuery in large scale ? THINK MORE. WRITE LESS ! ;-) Regards

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        You aren't comparing like with like. jQuery serves a purpose - making DOM manipulation consistent across browsers. You might want to think more before you pick your analogies.

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                          No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less. Effort "saved" up front often leads to greater effort later.

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          :thumbsup: At times like this, I wish I could hit the upvote button a couple of dozen times...

                          You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            No; a developer must write as clearly as possible so that the next developer can think less. Effort "saved" up front often leads to greater effort later.

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                            User 10246491
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                            PIEBALDconsult Please, The issue here is the discussion of a new possible concept, we can discuss about best practices of coding in another post. :zzz: Read the things before show yourself to the readers ! Regards.

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                              :thumbsup: At times like this, I wish I could hit the upvote button a couple of dozen times...

                              You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                              I respect your point of view. Thank you!

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                                You aren't comparing like with like. jQuery serves a purpose - making DOM manipulation consistent across browsers. You might want to think more before you pick your analogies.

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                                User 10246491
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                                The slogan says itself : jQuery => Write Less, Do More ;-) The analogy was cited in this regard. Thanks for your comment.

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                                  The slogan says itself : jQuery => Write Less, Do More ;-) The analogy was cited in this regard. Thanks for your comment.

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  Have you ever heard of an elevator pitch? You have a product that you're trying to get us interested in here. You have 60 seconds to tell us what problem you're trying to solve here and how it does it. Taking jQuery as an example - the problem is different browsers have different HTML implementations; jQuery provides a consistent API that works regardless of the underlying browser. That's an easy problem domain to define, and an easy solution to sell. What problem are you trying to solve? What can I not do today that this will solve for me?

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                                    Have you ever heard of an elevator pitch? You have a product that you're trying to get us interested in here. You have 60 seconds to tell us what problem you're trying to solve here and how it does it. Taking jQuery as an example - the problem is different browsers have different HTML implementations; jQuery provides a consistent API that works regardless of the underlying browser. That's an easy problem domain to define, and an easy solution to sell. What problem are you trying to solve? What can I not do today that this will solve for me?

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                                    User 10246491
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                                    Did u read the Project proposal ? - Smart Data Mining - Flex Data Formats Interchange Cross Platforms And more... Are some of the problems that it solves. Read more please. Download the test console and then give your opinion :-) Thanks

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                                      Did u read the Project proposal ? - Smart Data Mining - Flex Data Formats Interchange Cross Platforms And more... Are some of the problems that it solves. Read more please. Download the test console and then give your opinion :-) Thanks

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      I read your proposal and I watched the YouTube video. At the end of it I was no further forward. Throwing phrases like Flex Data Formats Interchange Cross Platforms tells me nothing. Seriously. Write your proposal in English, not technical shorthand. Your refusal to understand that we aren't going to just download a spam posting isn't doing you any favours. Tell you what. Why don't you write an article about this? This is, after all, what CodeProject is all about. If you write an article clearly showing what this solves, you might actually find that people are more receptive. Right now, you're winning no friends here.

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                                      • U User 10246491

                                        The slogan says itself : jQuery => Write Less, Do More ;-) The analogy was cited in this regard. Thanks for your comment.

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                                        Lost User
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                                        The slogan does not mean that it should use as few characters as possible.

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                        • U User 10246491

                                          Anyone know this new short syntax method of LINQ queries ? http://bwqs.codeplex.com

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                                          StatementTerminator
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                                          I honestly don't see what this accomplishes other than obfuscation. This reminds me of why I learned to hate Perl: easy to write, a right pain to read and maintain. If a junior programmer can't understand the code within a few minutes, you're doing something terrible to the maintenance programmers, killing productivity and inviting bugs (and making enemies). Code that is opaque for no good reason is worse than no code at all.

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