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  • C charlieg

    How many of you actually read them? Now, I only took one contract law class in college, but this seems VERY dubious to me: XI. may make changes to these terms at any time without notifying me. As a user, I am solely responsible for reading the most current version of the terms and conditions. This cannot reasonably be considered a contract.

    Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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    What constitutes a valid term depends not only on what you have agreed, but also on the legislation by the parliament and common law principles established by the court. ( Suppose it is within the common law world's jurisprudence ). I think : Generally the terms cannot be changed after the contract is formed, once there is change in terms one must communicate to another party. The later must agree in order to form a 'new contract' if the term is 'important'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton\_v\_Shoe\_Lane\_Parking\_Ltd

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      I've tried to read a couple of times but ADD and lack of lawyerese prevent me from getting anything out of them. I believe they make them that way so the average Joe won't take the time and they can pretty much do anything they want and you'll never know. Now if they they were truthful this would be there Terms and COnditions; We can do whatever we want, when we want without your knowledge or permission and if we don't like these terms we can change them anytime we want. Now that I can understand!

      Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!

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      Mike Hankey wrote:

      We can do whatever we want, when we want without your knowledge or permission and if we don't like these terms we can change them anytime we want.

      The problem I find with organizations that make changes to your TOC are the ones in which you have a substantial monetary and software investment. Like Apple with their 87 page contract. If I were to read the thing all the way through and found something I didn't like, am I expected to drop everything I have on my iPad/iPhone and start shelling out more money for apps on an Android just to avoid that one part I don't like?

      I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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        Mike Hankey wrote:

        We can do whatever we want, when we want without your knowledge or permission and if we don't like these terms we can change them anytime we want.

        The problem I find with organizations that make changes to your TOC are the ones in which you have a substantial monetary and software investment. Like Apple with their 87 page contract. If I were to read the thing all the way through and found something I didn't like, am I expected to drop everything I have on my iPad/iPhone and start shelling out more money for apps on an Android just to avoid that one part I don't like?

        I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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        Mike Hankey
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        Exactly and who's going to wade through 87 pages?, it's just ridiculous and they know you won't read it.

        New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!

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        • L Lost User

          That's a good trick. The ToC equivalent of a blank cheque. Next month: XII. as a user, I agree to sacrifice my immortal soul to Lord Lucifer.

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          harold aptroot wrote:

          as a user, I agree to sacrifice my immortal soul to Lord Lucifer.

          I plan to bury... User will surrender First Born as well as any and all financial accounts including authorization upon demand. in my EULA.

          Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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          • A AndersonChau

            What constitutes a valid term depends not only on what you have agreed, but also on the legislation by the parliament and common law principles established by the court. ( Suppose it is within the common law world's jurisprudence ). I think : Generally the terms cannot be changed after the contract is formed, once there is change in terms one must communicate to another party. The later must agree in order to form a 'new contract' if the term is 'important'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton\_v\_Shoe\_Lane\_Parking\_Ltd

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            I agree with you and KP. What struck me was the brazen and obvious nonsense the wording represented. Almost an alien mindset to common sense.

            Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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