Iran Air Crash

Paul Watson

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: US news is deemed more important than any other. For new organisations which claim to be "international" that's a travesty. And it is not the US's fault, but ours. US media agencies have every right to flog national tragedies. Just like any countries agencies. That all our agencies rely on the US agencies for coverage is what we have done wrong. Our agencies should have their independant reporters out there around the world, like the Reuters, AP, CNN chaps. Our guys should be out there, or at least they should have agreements with more agencies than just American ones.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
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Paul Watson

Schlaubi wrote: I think it's a bad situation, but the news mainly show what the people are interested in - and that's nearly nothing that doesn't affect them. I don't think the main news is really in touch with peoples interests any more.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

Paul Watson

Megan Forbes wrote: You sure you don't have journalist training? That certainly sounds about right lol thanks. News24 told me I should carry on submitting photos to them. What got to me though was "They should be human interest mainly. Pets, old ladies, the homeless etc." That bites IMO. They see the only worthwhile photos being those that give them leverage on their viewers emotions.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

Anna Jayne Metcalfe

Damn right. Though as you say, the BBC is the exception rather than the rule - last night it was the headline story on their site. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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Megan Forbes

Paul Watson wrote: lol thanks. :) No Probs! Paul Watson wrote: News24 told me I should carry on submitting photos to them Congrats! :cool: Paul Watson wrote: What got to me though was "They should be human interest mainly. Pets, old ladies, the homeless etc." That bites IMO. They see the only worthwhile photos being those that give them leverage on their viewers emotions. Pretty much the same here, but this time specifically international news - I wonder if the little old ladies being beaten up over here for their pensions and loaves of bread would interest them - seems doubtful, for the same reason you state :( Oh well, I work in the wrong city for news anyway (I'm having trouble deciding whether Maidstone or Nelspruit is larger). Personally I prefer iafrica to News24 (they did feature the Iran plane crash this morning), and have had an article on London published by them once, but to be honest, I find writing blurb to go with my shots tedious in comparison with the fun I have taking the shots themselves. Guess I should grow up huh? :-O

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HENDRIK R

Paul Watson wrote: I don't think the main news is really in touch with peoples interests any more. I disagree with you. Television ever shows what people want to see - they need a certain amount of viewers to be able to self-finance. And viewers would switch the channel if it doesn't present what viewers want to see. The same is with news. Why are there currently only reports about Iraq, America, NATO, ... on TV? Because it's the main topic everywhere. People need more information every day to keep conversation alive, and the news provide that new information. So, currently nobody cares about an Irani airplane, and thus news only mention it marginally.

Paul Watson

Schlaubi wrote: The same is with news. Why are there currently only reports about Iraq, America, NATO, ... on TV? Because it's the main topic everywhere. People need more information every day to keep conversation alive, and the news provide that new information Ahh, well there you go. News channels provide it. Which is why I think we are being driven by the media rather than the media being driven by us. They push to us, there is very little way we can push back. You say we can switch news channels. True. But what is showing on the other news channel? Also Iraq. Also dogs on ice (and nothing to do with the Ice Shows.) Throw the TV out, get a paper. Damn, more Iraq. Buy another paper, Dog Rescued From Ice While Bush Invades Iraq. Quite frankly most people I know are quite sick and tired of hearing about and talking about Iraq. Here on CP we have seen it, people asking for War Talk to be in the Soapbox or preferrably not at all. Yet the media still pumps it out. The feedback loop is not working.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

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HENDRIK R

Paul Watson wrote: Which is why I think we are being driven by the media rather than the media being driven by us. They push to us, there is very little way we can push back. I think it's kind of circle. It's sure that media invents the news which then become a public topic. Once the news is established, people demand for new information as long as they're interested in, and thus watch the news channel or buy the papers. So media is pushed to update it's information day for day. Once people's interest declines, media invents another news to be topic number one. So we influence media, too. But not in the way that we tell them what to show / write, but how long to keep news up-to-date or which of the news to keep in program. And that's what you denied when posting "I don't think the main news is really in touch with peoples interests any more.". But beside that all I agree that mainly we're driven by media. They 'help' to build our opinion, thus having influence on our whole life.

Lost User

Paul Watson wrote: because we get our stuff mainly from America (Retuers, Associated Press etc.) I always thought Reuters was British... Mike Mullikin :beer:

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Jason Henderson

It may also be a factor which country it happened in. Iran isn't the most open country in the world, especially to a free press corps. What gets my goat is that if it happened in America, there would be a Muslim cleric in Iran saying God did it because we're the great satan.

Jason Henderson
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Paul Watson

Mike Mullikin wrote: I always thought Reuters was British... My apologies, my mistake. Still driven by US news channels it seems like.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

Rohit Sinha

Paul Watson wrote: News24 told me I should carry on submitting photos to them. Wow, congrats, Paul! :cool:
Regards,

Rohit Sinha

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Paul Watson

Jason Henderson wrote: What gets my goat is that if it happened in America, there would be a Muslim cleric in Iran saying God did it because we're the great satan. Yeah, that is just sad stuff. It just undermines the already unstable image I have of them.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

Lost User

Paul Watson wrote: My apologies, my mistake. You are forgiven. :rolleyes: P.S. I agree that the press have a seriously screwed up sense of priorities. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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Anna Jayne Metcalfe

Megan Forbes wrote: Guess I should grow up huh? Trust me, it's not worth it. ;) The most "grown up" people I've met are also the straighest and most boring. :| Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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Roger Wright

Actually, it was a front page link on msn.com when I looked yesterday. A sad event for any country to experience, friendly or not to the US. It is no less a tragedy for their family and friends than it would be here... The article had few details - any word yet on what happened? It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

brianwelsch

Megan Forbes wrote: live rescue of a dog floating about on a piece of ice off NYC How did I miss that! Poor widdle puppy doggy....:( :rolleyes: I can't vouch for the standstill part, because I didn't catch much TV news yesterday, but I'd say a grain of salt should be taken along with that. ;) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

brianwelsch

Paul Watson wrote: Pets, old ladies, the homeless etc." That bites IMO It's hard to tug on the heartstrings with a picture of a flux capacitor. But snapping a shot of the homeless, now we're talking! I suppose we could give them a shower, job, or sandwich, but where's the glory in that?? If we could place a footnote on their person that said "Fed, 21/2/03, Brian Welsch" why I'd be sure to get a piece of that action!! :( BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

brianwelsch

Paul Watson wrote: Hell no, it is the rest of the worlds fault. We depend far too much on America. Thank You. Although, I have to say thats a rather Republican view you've got there. ;) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

Megan Forbes

brianwelsch wrote: But snapping a shot of the homeless, now we're talking! I suppose we could give them a shower, job, or sandwich, but where's the glory in that?? Sadly true. And the homeless make good subjects, if only to remind people they should be happy to be in that heated office they're always complaining about.

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