Iran Air Crash

HENDRIK R

Paul Watson wrote: Which is why I think we are being driven by the media rather than the media being driven by us. They push to us, there is very little way we can push back. I think it's kind of circle. It's sure that media invents the news which then become a public topic. Once the news is established, people demand for new information as long as they're interested in, and thus watch the news channel or buy the papers. So media is pushed to update it's information day for day. Once people's interest declines, media invents another news to be topic number one. So we influence media, too. But not in the way that we tell them what to show / write, but how long to keep news up-to-date or which of the news to keep in program. And that's what you denied when posting "I don't think the main news is really in touch with peoples interests any more.". But beside that all I agree that mainly we're driven by media. They 'help' to build our opinion, thus having influence on our whole life.

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Paul Watson wrote: because we get our stuff mainly from America (Retuers, Associated Press etc.) I always thought Reuters was British... Mike Mullikin :beer:

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Jason Henderson

It may also be a factor which country it happened in. Iran isn't the most open country in the world, especially to a free press corps. What gets my goat is that if it happened in America, there would be a Muslim cleric in Iran saying God did it because we're the great satan.

Jason Henderson
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Paul Watson

Mike Mullikin wrote: I always thought Reuters was British... My apologies, my mistake. Still driven by US news channels it seems like.

Paul Watson
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Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

Rohit Sinha

Paul Watson wrote: News24 told me I should carry on submitting photos to them. Wow, congrats, Paul! :cool:
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Rohit Sinha

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Paul Watson

Jason Henderson wrote: What gets my goat is that if it happened in America, there would be a Muslim cleric in Iran saying God did it because we're the great satan. Yeah, that is just sad stuff. It just undermines the already unstable image I have of them.

Paul Watson
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Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

Lost User

Paul Watson wrote: My apologies, my mistake. You are forgiven. :rolleyes: P.S. I agree that the press have a seriously screwed up sense of priorities. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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Roger Wright

Actually, it was a front page link on msn.com when I looked yesterday. A sad event for any country to experience, friendly or not to the US. It is no less a tragedy for their family and friends than it would be here... The article had few details - any word yet on what happened? It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

brianwelsch

Megan Forbes wrote: live rescue of a dog floating about on a piece of ice off NYC How did I miss that! Poor widdle puppy doggy....:( :rolleyes: I can't vouch for the standstill part, because I didn't catch much TV news yesterday, but I'd say a grain of salt should be taken along with that. ;) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

brianwelsch

Paul Watson wrote: Pets, old ladies, the homeless etc." That bites IMO It's hard to tug on the heartstrings with a picture of a flux capacitor. But snapping a shot of the homeless, now we're talking! I suppose we could give them a shower, job, or sandwich, but where's the glory in that?? If we could place a footnote on their person that said "Fed, 21/2/03, Brian Welsch" why I'd be sure to get a piece of that action!! :( BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

brianwelsch

Paul Watson wrote: Hell no, it is the rest of the worlds fault. We depend far too much on America. Thank You. Although, I have to say thats a rather Republican view you've got there. ;) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

Megan Forbes

brianwelsch wrote: But snapping a shot of the homeless, now we're talking! I suppose we could give them a shower, job, or sandwich, but where's the glory in that?? Sadly true. And the homeless make good subjects, if only to remind people they should be happy to be in that heated office they're always complaining about.

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Megan Forbes

brianwelsch wrote: How did I miss that! Poor widdle puppy doggy.... :laugh: Perhaps you were doing something more important like watching The Simpsons? ;)

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brianwelsch

Schlaubi wrote: but the news mainly show what the people are interested in I go back and forth on that one. But I usually agree, because news channels are businesses and require ratings to increase revenue. However, showing the news people want to see, isn't the only way to increase ratings. They simply have to attract viewers with shiney news anchors, cool sound bites and graphics, and "digging up the juicy gossip". you know, make it fun, not informative. It'd be refreshing though to see a channel who brought a nice balance of tragedy and triumph, and paid no attention to what nation it was, andreported political goings on with little bias. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

HENDRIK R

Megan Forbes wrote: Perhaps you were doing something more important like watching The Simpsons? What exactly do you mean with "something more important like watching The Simpsons"?? Is there anything more important out in the world? Are you really sure about that? :confused:

brianwelsch

Megan Forbes wrote: like watching The Simpsons Actually, last night I was watching American Idol*. :-O [edit]*A take off of Pop Idol[/edit] BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

Paul Watson

brianwelsch wrote: Although, I have to say thats a rather Republican view you've got there That is a bad thing, isn't it? Bush is republican isn't he? Or is he a democrat? Or a facist? Or does nobody know what he actually is?

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

HENDRIK R

brianwelsch wrote: I go back and forth on that one. But I usually agree, because news channels are businesses and require ratings to increase revenue. However, showing the news people want to see, isn't the only way to increase ratings. They simply have to attract viewers with shiney news anchors, cool sound bites and graphics, and "digging up the juicy gossip". you know, make it fun, not informative. Unfortunately in most cases your scenario fits. :( But we in Germany have one news-'show' that doesn't use optical means to catch viewers. It's broadcasted every day at 8pm, lasts only 15 minutes and has one of the highest ratings of the day. And that's an exception. All the other new shows bank on the stuff you mentioned. That's bad, because it's more show than news. brianwelsch wrote: It'd be refreshing though to see a channel who brought a nice balance of tragedy and triumph, and paid no attention to what nation it was, andreported political goings on with little bias. That'd be really nice, but in the nearer future there'll ever be differences between what nation the news belongs to.

Paul Watson

Megan Forbes wrote: Sadly true. And the homeless make good subjects, if only to remind people they should be happy to be in that heated office they're always complaining about. Are you going for Non-PC Person of the year award? :-D

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!