Iran Air Crash

brianwelsch

Schlaubi wrote: but the news mainly show what the people are interested in I go back and forth on that one. But I usually agree, because news channels are businesses and require ratings to increase revenue. However, showing the news people want to see, isn't the only way to increase ratings. They simply have to attract viewers with shiney news anchors, cool sound bites and graphics, and "digging up the juicy gossip". you know, make it fun, not informative. It'd be refreshing though to see a channel who brought a nice balance of tragedy and triumph, and paid no attention to what nation it was, andreported political goings on with little bias. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

HENDRIK R

Megan Forbes wrote: Perhaps you were doing something more important like watching The Simpsons? What exactly do you mean with "something more important like watching The Simpsons"?? Is there anything more important out in the world? Are you really sure about that? :confused:

brianwelsch

Megan Forbes wrote: like watching The Simpsons Actually, last night I was watching American Idol*. :-O [edit]*A take off of Pop Idol[/edit] BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

Paul Watson

brianwelsch wrote: Although, I have to say thats a rather Republican view you've got there That is a bad thing, isn't it? Bush is republican isn't he? Or is he a democrat? Or a facist? Or does nobody know what he actually is?

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

HENDRIK R

brianwelsch wrote: I go back and forth on that one. But I usually agree, because news channels are businesses and require ratings to increase revenue. However, showing the news people want to see, isn't the only way to increase ratings. They simply have to attract viewers with shiney news anchors, cool sound bites and graphics, and "digging up the juicy gossip". you know, make it fun, not informative. Unfortunately in most cases your scenario fits. :( But we in Germany have one news-'show' that doesn't use optical means to catch viewers. It's broadcasted every day at 8pm, lasts only 15 minutes and has one of the highest ratings of the day. And that's an exception. All the other new shows bank on the stuff you mentioned. That's bad, because it's more show than news. brianwelsch wrote: It'd be refreshing though to see a channel who brought a nice balance of tragedy and triumph, and paid no attention to what nation it was, andreported political goings on with little bias. That'd be really nice, but in the nearer future there'll ever be differences between what nation the news belongs to.

Paul Watson

Megan Forbes wrote: Sadly true. And the homeless make good subjects, if only to remind people they should be happy to be in that heated office they're always complaining about. Are you going for Non-PC Person of the year award? :-D

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

brianwelsch

No Republican isn't bad. There really aren't too different from Democrats, all being politicians playing the same game... Bush is republican. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

Alvaro Mendez

Paul Watson wrote: Made us aware that we might as well be states in the United States of Earth, with GWB as our Overlord. One can only dream of how great it would be if the whole world was one giant free and democratic nation, although not necessarily like the US or run by a guy like Dubya. Regards, Alvaro

All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. -- Mark Twain

Paul Watson

Alvaro Mendez wrote: One can only dream of how great it would be if the whole world was one giant free and democratic nation, although not necessarily like the US or run by a guy like Dubya. Not everyone wants democracy. This is a fatal mistake that us westerners often make. We think our way is the best and that it is inconcievable that others would object to our way of life. Of course Afghanis want to be liberated! Look how much better off they are now. Go liberation! And also even if everyone did want democracy forming a rule of law that would cater for every single culture on Earth is near impossible. Hindus have very different requirements to say Mormoms.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: (on the matter of not buying French products) But French Poodles make the best tacos!

brianwelsch

just found www.worldnews.com[^], which looks to take articles from different sources throughout the world. At least have some balance that way. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

Megan Forbes

Paul Watson wrote: Are you going for Non-PC Person of the year award? :-O Terrible isn't it! :laugh: Too old to change now... Seriously though, one of the projects on UseFilm is "Characters" - and there's loads of great homeless people shots there (my fav is the homeless postman sleeping on a park bench in Prague - priceless face :) ). In fact (just to reinforce your notion above *blush again*) I am thinking of lurking around the tubes one Saturday targetting buskers :rolleyes:

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Megan Forbes

Schlaubi wrote: "something more important like watching The Simpsons"?? Is there anything more important out in the world? It seems unlikely, although Malcolm in the Middle is an equal contender in my view :cool:

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Paul Watson

Megan Forbes wrote: Terrible isn't it! Naaah, not really. Probably just voicing what a lot of people have in their heads anyway. Being too PC IMO is worse than not being PC at all. Megan Forbes wrote: In fact (just to reinforce your notion above *blush again*) I am thinking of lurking around the tubes one Saturday targetting buskers :~ Photography makes you do the strangest things. I am going to go and wander through District Six this weekend, just to get some street photography under my belt. Can you believe that? Me, middle class white collar worker wandering through District Six because he wants photos... shudder the thought! I even enquired the other day as to how much the Township Tours cost so that I could get some squatter camp shots. Not too mention the bloody shins, bruised elbows, dinged head and scrabed knees from clambering into the wierdest spots just to get the right angle on mountains, beaches, rocks and caterpillars. :-D What a wonderful drug.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

berndg wrote: You misunderstand. The fridge... ...also has a web server for monitoring. Why? So that you can see whether the light actually goes off. Ahem. We can sink no lower.

Megan Forbes

Paul Watson wrote: Being too PC IMO is worse than not being PC at all. That's my feeling too, although people who go the other way and hurt other's feelings because of what they are, not who they are really p155 me off Paul Watson wrote: I am going to go and wander through District Six this weekend, just to get some street photography under my belt Have fun - there should be some real jewels there, but be careful! It's a strange life, staying home from fear robs us of experiencing it to the fullest, but having the "it won't happen to me" syndrome can change our lives forever in one instant. Paul Watson wrote: What a wonderful drug. Ain't it just! :-D

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Brit

Paul Watson wrote: But come on peeps. Just for one second think how farked into a frenzied cocked hat the media would be if that Iranian plane was American and had US troops in it. I would have woken up with "Air Disaster" taped to my forehead and the CNN anchor in my bedroom. Wow. So you're saying that a news agency will report more diligently on distasters in their own country? Unbelievable! Iranian News Agency:[^] Top items: Iranian military plane crashes, 302 people dead Death toll from Iran plane crash put at 302 Over 270 people killed in Iranian military plane crash Now see if you can find the story on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/[^] (look carefully on the right for 'weather hampers iran rescue') Perhaps LeMonde has something: http://www.lemonde.fr/[^] (you'll have to scroll down to international) ------------------------------------------ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin In an encampment expecting daily attack from a powerful enemy, self-preservation is paramount to all law. - Thomas Jefferson

Paul Watson

Brit wrote: Wow. So you're saying that a news agency will report more diligently on distasters in their own country? Unbelievable! Har. Har. I do not live in America or Iran, Brit. My point is that if the accident had been American then I, living in South Africa, would have heard about it all day everyday for two weeks solid with a CNN anchor in my bedroom almost. But because it was Iranian, it got mild coverage and quickly sank. That is FUBAR. The FUBAR bit is that we rely on the American news agencies (and American driven news agencies like Reuters) too much. They obviously report on American topics, and they should, they are American, let them. But then we, Other Countries, should have our own network so that we can get the news relevant to us. We are pathetic for not having it and are suffering under our American-bias.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

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peterchen

Paul Watson wrote: 1. Child down hole in ground ahhh... you've seen 12 Monkeys? *g*

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Alvaro Mendez

Paul Watson wrote: Not everyone wants democracy. True, those that don't should be locked up, pretty much like they are now. :-) Paul Watson wrote: And also even if everyone did want democracy forming a rule of law that would cater for every single culture on Earth is near impossible. Hindus have very different requirements to say Mormoms. That may be true, but I believe people from all those cultures are living quite happily in the US and other free countries around the world. Wait, there is one thing they don't like: having to learn a foreign language. But even that goes to show the sacrifices many people are willing to make to live in a free society. I haven't heard of many people seeking a better life in North Korea. Regards, Alvaro

All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. -- Mark Twain

ColinDavies

Seriously I think any news agency must think about how much they can milk a story for. American advertisers generally target americans with money. So most of the bandwidth in the world goes to what will be interesting to that group. Imagine a story "Identical Twin child stuck down a hole". The shots of the above ground twin would be worth a fortune, and quite inexpensive to procure compared to covering an Iranian air disaster. It might seem sad it might seem callous but that's life. Sept 11 had spectacular coverage because of its location and simbolism. But who cared when Tikiopia dissapeared ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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Paul Watson

Alvaro Mendez wrote: True, those that don't should be locked up, pretty much like they are now. No wonder non-westerners hate us. When we have attitudes like that. Alvaro Mendez wrote: That may be true, but I believe people from all those cultures are living quite happily in the US and other free countries around the world Not entirely true. Many "get by" in American society because their countries are worse off. Their ideal is not the American way. You were talking ideals with your "one world government" post.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er