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  • M Mark_Wallace

    I'll stick with the standard definition: "useful data", and call babysit* on that conclusion, because 99.93% of what he's calling "information" is absolutely useless data -- so useless, in fact, that the only people who read it are working for national security organisations. * See here[^].

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    Did we just invent a new CP Meme together with Sunshine and Elephant?

    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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      Did we just invent a new CP Meme together with Sunshine and Elephant?

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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      Mark_Wallace
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      It certainly looks that way -- because we do things properly, here at CP; we're a no-babysit bunch.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        Posts like yours and mine?

        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V) תפסיק לספר לה' כמה הצרות שלך גדולות, תספר לצרות שלך כמה ה' גדול!

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        Indeed

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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        • J Jorgen Andersson

          that humans will create more information in the form of data in the next two days than was created in all of history up until the year 2003. I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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          Lost User
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          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

          I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

          Link? Sounds like they are talking about "consuming bandwidth/transmitting data", not in the generation of "new information". In technical terms, all information is data, but nor all data is information. The fact that they have to stress the fact that they are talking about information as "data" hints towards transmission.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

            I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

            Link? Sounds like they are talking about "consuming bandwidth/transmitting data", not in the generation of "new information". In technical terms, all information is data, but nor all data is information. The fact that they have to stress the fact that they are talking about information as "data" hints towards transmission.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            Apparently it was Eric Schmidt (of google) that said it at some conference. I'll try to find it when I'm in front of a computer.

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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            • J Jorgen Andersson

              that humans will create more information in the form of data in the next two days than was created in all of history up until the year 2003. I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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              Andy Brummer
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              At least it includes the huge amounts of data from the LHC, genome sequencing, telescopes, space probes, etc.

              Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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              • M Mark_Wallace

                It certainly looks that way -- because we do things properly, here at CP; we're a no-babysit bunch.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Forogar
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                It sounds like a load of Babysit to me!

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                • A Andy Brummer

                  At least it includes the huge amounts of data from the LHC, genome sequencing, telescopes, space probes, etc.

                  Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  And how many percent promille ppm ppb would that be? :rolleyes:

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                    that humans will create more information in the form of data in the next two days than was created in all of history up until the year 2003. I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                    I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

                    LolCatz mostly. And pr0n.

                    Alberto Brandolini:

                    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                      that humans will create more information in the form of data in the next two days than was created in all of history up until the year 2003. I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                      James Curran
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                      I think it's more accurate to say we'll RECORD more information.....

                      Truth, James

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                      • L Lost User

                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                        I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

                        Link? Sounds like they are talking about "consuming bandwidth/transmitting data", not in the generation of "new information". In technical terms, all information is data, but nor all data is information. The fact that they have to stress the fact that they are talking about information as "data" hints towards transmission.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        Can't find the article I read, but it was similar to this[^].

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                        • J Jorgen Andersson

                          that humans will create more information in the form of data in the next two days than was created in all of history up until the year 2003. I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                          So does this mean we're getting closer to resolving the question of whether an infinite number of monkeys sitting at typewriters really can produce the works of Shakespeare? Only I've got a bet on!

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                          • J Jorgen Andersson

                            that humans will create more information in the form of data in the next two days than was created in all of history up until the year 2003. I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

                            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                            kdmote
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                            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                            humans will create more information in the form of data in the next two days than ...all of history...

                            Rats! This was posted, like, a day and a half ago and I'm just now reading it! That means I must have missed pretty much the whole thing! I always seem to arrive at the party when everyone is leaving. (Ooh. I just realized there could be another explanation for that last statement than just bad timing...)

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                            • J Jorgen Andersson

                              Did we just invent a new CP Meme together with Sunshine and Elephant?

                              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                              rnbergren
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                              I forget. I know what Elephant is. What is sunshine?

                              To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                              • J Jorgen Andersson

                                Can't find the article I read, but it was similar to this[^].

                                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                Tx for the link; it's not about consuming data, but we do not generate that amount of data simply by adding tweets and FB-posts. 1024 HD movies on Youtube, with an hour of black behind it; the list of sites you visited; each email we reply to and include the complete conversation. ..that's not information, but data :)

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                • 9 9082365

                                  So does this mean we're getting closer to resolving the question of whether an infinite number of monkeys sitting at typewriters really can produce the works of Shakespeare? Only I've got a bet on!

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  Is that Farcebook you're referring to?

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                  • R rnbergren

                                    I forget. I know what Elephant is. What is sunshine?

                                    To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                                    Jorgen Andersson
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                                    Here[^]

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                      Tx for the link; it's not about consuming data, but we do not generate that amount of data simply by adding tweets and FB-posts. 1024 HD movies on Youtube, with an hour of black behind it; the list of sites you visited; each email we reply to and include the complete conversation. ..that's not information, but data :)

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                      Jorgen Andersson
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                                      Yeah, there are lots of people that don't understand the difference of information vs data.

                                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                                        that humans will create more information in the form of data in the next two days than was created in all of history up until the year 2003. I wonder what their definition of 'information' is?

                                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                        BrainiacV
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                                        Cat videos of course.

                                        Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                                        • J Jorgen Andersson

                                          Here[^]

                                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                          frazGJF
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                                          Yes useless data. Not like us, commenting in this blog thread. No not like us! :-D

                                          GregJF

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