American College Football Rant
-
Ok...this will probably be long so that I can explain things to those who don't watch this stuff, and so I can vent completely. American college/university level sports are not only divided into Conferences (each school may belong to a conference; few exceptions) and then conferences are grouped by, to put it honestly, how much money is spent on their sports programs (mainly football and basketball). The whole thing is supposedly governed by the National Collegiate Athletics Association (NCAA). There are four conferences that are called the power conferences. Some pretend this is because they play the most powerful football. IMO, it's because they have the most power in the NCAA. The reason for the power is they have huge fan bases that "travel well", aka go to whatever city and spend lots of money. As an example of their power in the NCAA, over the past few years there has been a consolidation from 6 power conferences to 5, and as a result, a number of schools were "demoted". Now remember, this is supposedly "amateur" athletics. Another change was to force the NCAA to have an official end-of-season championship game, something that was never done before in football. When that wasn't satisfactory, some complained it wasn't fair that only two team could vie for the championship, it was expanded to a four team, three game mini-tournament. (Gee, ya think someone figure out they could get more money by having 3 games instead of 1...nah!) Getting there...remember, this is a rant on a "work" day. So four of the power conferences got teams in this mini-tournament, although there was still plenty of complaining. Florida State (FSU) won the national title game last year, going undefeated. This year they were undefeated going into the mini-tournament. Last year, FSU's quarterback won the Heisman Trophy, basically a Most valuable Player award for all of college football. FSU had been ranked number 1 for much of the year, and dropped lower because (according to some...more on this below), many of there victories were come-from-behind. IOW, they did not dominate. FSU played 5 or 6 games in the last 6 weeks of the season, all against power conference teams. FSU was given the third seed of the mini-tournament, meaning they would play the second seed. Alabama was the team given the number 1 ranking when FSU was dropped. There is a myth that Alabama's conference, the South Eastern Conference (SEC), is the best of all...blah blah blah...Well, their fans seem to spend more on alcohol than the r
-
Ok...this will probably be long so that I can explain things to those who don't watch this stuff, and so I can vent completely. American college/university level sports are not only divided into Conferences (each school may belong to a conference; few exceptions) and then conferences are grouped by, to put it honestly, how much money is spent on their sports programs (mainly football and basketball). The whole thing is supposedly governed by the National Collegiate Athletics Association (NCAA). There are four conferences that are called the power conferences. Some pretend this is because they play the most powerful football. IMO, it's because they have the most power in the NCAA. The reason for the power is they have huge fan bases that "travel well", aka go to whatever city and spend lots of money. As an example of their power in the NCAA, over the past few years there has been a consolidation from 6 power conferences to 5, and as a result, a number of schools were "demoted". Now remember, this is supposedly "amateur" athletics. Another change was to force the NCAA to have an official end-of-season championship game, something that was never done before in football. When that wasn't satisfactory, some complained it wasn't fair that only two team could vie for the championship, it was expanded to a four team, three game mini-tournament. (Gee, ya think someone figure out they could get more money by having 3 games instead of 1...nah!) Getting there...remember, this is a rant on a "work" day. So four of the power conferences got teams in this mini-tournament, although there was still plenty of complaining. Florida State (FSU) won the national title game last year, going undefeated. This year they were undefeated going into the mini-tournament. Last year, FSU's quarterback won the Heisman Trophy, basically a Most valuable Player award for all of college football. FSU had been ranked number 1 for much of the year, and dropped lower because (according to some...more on this below), many of there victories were come-from-behind. IOW, they did not dominate. FSU played 5 or 6 games in the last 6 weeks of the season, all against power conference teams. FSU was given the third seed of the mini-tournament, meaning they would play the second seed. Alabama was the team given the number 1 ranking when FSU was dropped. There is a myth that Alabama's conference, the South Eastern Conference (SEC), is the best of all...blah blah blah...Well, their fans seem to spend more on alcohol than the r
[sarcasm] I like the big 10, all 14 teams. [/sarcasm] You have to love people that cannot count. I believe your money theory is correct. Try to get a ticket to a regular season home game. It cost more than a season ticket did when I went to school (yes I know I am OLD). Because zero state won for the next week in central Ohio all local news will be football. Even giving weather forecast for Las Vegas on game day.
-
[sarcasm] I like the big 10, all 14 teams. [/sarcasm] You have to love people that cannot count. I believe your money theory is correct. Try to get a ticket to a regular season home game. It cost more than a season ticket did when I went to school (yes I know I am OLD). Because zero state won for the next week in central Ohio all local news will be football. Even giving weather forecast for Las Vegas on game day.
Corporal Agarn wrote:
You have to love people that cannot count.
SECers? BTW, you do know the Big12 has 10 teams now, eh? back to the SEC ... like Missouri is in the Southeast...or Texas or Kentucky for that matter! When did Arizona and Utah develop Pacific coastlines, and Kentucky and Pennsylvania get Atlantic coast extensions? Yep, they're not academic conferences!
Corporal Agarn wrote:
I believe your money theory is correct.
When my kids started college I had an epiphany: The primary purpose of institutions of higher learning is to develop donating alumni.
Corporal Agarn wrote:
(yes I know I am OLD).
When we meet for Scotch, the younger one buys. I believe my wallet won't get any lighter.(My profile pic is more than 7 years old, the face is now heavier and the hair/beard "blonder". :-D )
cat fud heer
-
Ok...this will probably be long so that I can explain things to those who don't watch this stuff, and so I can vent completely. American college/university level sports are not only divided into Conferences (each school may belong to a conference; few exceptions) and then conferences are grouped by, to put it honestly, how much money is spent on their sports programs (mainly football and basketball). The whole thing is supposedly governed by the National Collegiate Athletics Association (NCAA). There are four conferences that are called the power conferences. Some pretend this is because they play the most powerful football. IMO, it's because they have the most power in the NCAA. The reason for the power is they have huge fan bases that "travel well", aka go to whatever city and spend lots of money. As an example of their power in the NCAA, over the past few years there has been a consolidation from 6 power conferences to 5, and as a result, a number of schools were "demoted". Now remember, this is supposedly "amateur" athletics. Another change was to force the NCAA to have an official end-of-season championship game, something that was never done before in football. When that wasn't satisfactory, some complained it wasn't fair that only two team could vie for the championship, it was expanded to a four team, three game mini-tournament. (Gee, ya think someone figure out they could get more money by having 3 games instead of 1...nah!) Getting there...remember, this is a rant on a "work" day. So four of the power conferences got teams in this mini-tournament, although there was still plenty of complaining. Florida State (FSU) won the national title game last year, going undefeated. This year they were undefeated going into the mini-tournament. Last year, FSU's quarterback won the Heisman Trophy, basically a Most valuable Player award for all of college football. FSU had been ranked number 1 for much of the year, and dropped lower because (according to some...more on this below), many of there victories were come-from-behind. IOW, they did not dominate. FSU played 5 or 6 games in the last 6 weeks of the season, all against power conference teams. FSU was given the third seed of the mini-tournament, meaning they would play the second seed. Alabama was the team given the number 1 ranking when FSU was dropped. There is a myth that Alabama's conference, the South Eastern Conference (SEC), is the best of all...blah blah blah...Well, their fans seem to spend more on alcohol than the r
...BUUUURRP... what was that you said?!
-
Corporal Agarn wrote:
You have to love people that cannot count.
SECers? BTW, you do know the Big12 has 10 teams now, eh? back to the SEC ... like Missouri is in the Southeast...or Texas or Kentucky for that matter! When did Arizona and Utah develop Pacific coastlines, and Kentucky and Pennsylvania get Atlantic coast extensions? Yep, they're not academic conferences!
Corporal Agarn wrote:
I believe your money theory is correct.
When my kids started college I had an epiphany: The primary purpose of institutions of higher learning is to develop donating alumni.
Corporal Agarn wrote:
(yes I know I am OLD).
When we meet for Scotch, the younger one buys. I believe my wallet won't get any lighter.(My profile pic is more than 7 years old, the face is now heavier and the hair/beard "blonder". :-D )
cat fud heer
Hey I liked Richard Nixon. He signed the legislation to keep me out of Viet Nam as my birthday was coming up. :)
-
Hey I liked Richard Nixon. He signed the legislation to keep me out of Viet Nam as my birthday was coming up. :)
-
Corporal Agarn wrote:
You have to love people that cannot count.
SECers? BTW, you do know the Big12 has 10 teams now, eh? back to the SEC ... like Missouri is in the Southeast...or Texas or Kentucky for that matter! When did Arizona and Utah develop Pacific coastlines, and Kentucky and Pennsylvania get Atlantic coast extensions? Yep, they're not academic conferences!
Corporal Agarn wrote:
I believe your money theory is correct.
When my kids started college I had an epiphany: The primary purpose of institutions of higher learning is to develop donating alumni.
Corporal Agarn wrote:
(yes I know I am OLD).
When we meet for Scotch, the younger one buys. I believe my wallet won't get any lighter.(My profile pic is more than 7 years old, the face is now heavier and the hair/beard "blonder". :-D )
cat fud heer
-
Ok...this will probably be long so that I can explain things to those who don't watch this stuff, and so I can vent completely. American college/university level sports are not only divided into Conferences (each school may belong to a conference; few exceptions) and then conferences are grouped by, to put it honestly, how much money is spent on their sports programs (mainly football and basketball). The whole thing is supposedly governed by the National Collegiate Athletics Association (NCAA). There are four conferences that are called the power conferences. Some pretend this is because they play the most powerful football. IMO, it's because they have the most power in the NCAA. The reason for the power is they have huge fan bases that "travel well", aka go to whatever city and spend lots of money. As an example of their power in the NCAA, over the past few years there has been a consolidation from 6 power conferences to 5, and as a result, a number of schools were "demoted". Now remember, this is supposedly "amateur" athletics. Another change was to force the NCAA to have an official end-of-season championship game, something that was never done before in football. When that wasn't satisfactory, some complained it wasn't fair that only two team could vie for the championship, it was expanded to a four team, three game mini-tournament. (Gee, ya think someone figure out they could get more money by having 3 games instead of 1...nah!) Getting there...remember, this is a rant on a "work" day. So four of the power conferences got teams in this mini-tournament, although there was still plenty of complaining. Florida State (FSU) won the national title game last year, going undefeated. This year they were undefeated going into the mini-tournament. Last year, FSU's quarterback won the Heisman Trophy, basically a Most valuable Player award for all of college football. FSU had been ranked number 1 for much of the year, and dropped lower because (according to some...more on this below), many of there victories were come-from-behind. IOW, they did not dominate. FSU played 5 or 6 games in the last 6 weeks of the season, all against power conference teams. FSU was given the third seed of the mini-tournament, meaning they would play the second seed. Alabama was the team given the number 1 ranking when FSU was dropped. There is a myth that Alabama's conference, the South Eastern Conference (SEC), is the best of all...blah blah blah...Well, their fans seem to spend more on alcohol than the r
BiggerDon wrote:
So, this is what we've gotten...poor sportsmanship. I love college football, have since we lived in a college town when I was young, but I am disgusted with these "power conferences" and their sense of entitlement
Of course rose colored glasses are known for working better when reminiscing about the remembered past. Even better when one looks back long ago.
-
Ok...this will probably be long so that I can explain things to those who don't watch this stuff, and so I can vent completely. American college/university level sports are not only divided into Conferences (each school may belong to a conference; few exceptions) and then conferences are grouped by, to put it honestly, how much money is spent on their sports programs (mainly football and basketball). The whole thing is supposedly governed by the National Collegiate Athletics Association (NCAA). There are four conferences that are called the power conferences. Some pretend this is because they play the most powerful football. IMO, it's because they have the most power in the NCAA. The reason for the power is they have huge fan bases that "travel well", aka go to whatever city and spend lots of money. As an example of their power in the NCAA, over the past few years there has been a consolidation from 6 power conferences to 5, and as a result, a number of schools were "demoted". Now remember, this is supposedly "amateur" athletics. Another change was to force the NCAA to have an official end-of-season championship game, something that was never done before in football. When that wasn't satisfactory, some complained it wasn't fair that only two team could vie for the championship, it was expanded to a four team, three game mini-tournament. (Gee, ya think someone figure out they could get more money by having 3 games instead of 1...nah!) Getting there...remember, this is a rant on a "work" day. So four of the power conferences got teams in this mini-tournament, although there was still plenty of complaining. Florida State (FSU) won the national title game last year, going undefeated. This year they were undefeated going into the mini-tournament. Last year, FSU's quarterback won the Heisman Trophy, basically a Most valuable Player award for all of college football. FSU had been ranked number 1 for much of the year, and dropped lower because (according to some...more on this below), many of there victories were come-from-behind. IOW, they did not dominate. FSU played 5 or 6 games in the last 6 weeks of the season, all against power conference teams. FSU was given the third seed of the mini-tournament, meaning they would play the second seed. Alabama was the team given the number 1 ranking when FSU was dropped. There is a myth that Alabama's conference, the South Eastern Conference (SEC), is the best of all...blah blah blah...Well, their fans seem to spend more on alcohol than the r
Perhaps you can explain. Why do you call it football? As the ball spends most of the time in the hands, why?
-
Perhaps you can explain. Why do you call it football? As the ball spends most of the time in the hands, why?
Football - the name given to a number of sports played using a ball on foot. For example; Association Football North American Football (American or Canadian) Australian Rules Football Rugby Football (Union or League) Gaelic Football Games that developed from medieval Europe where various versions were played with a ball type object moved around by foot, hand, or stick, known as Mob Football. The most famous of these remains as Shrovetide football, which is still played in Ashbourne, and in which the ball is very rarely played with the foot. Mob Football seems to have developed from older Celtic and Roman versions played in a similar manner. The current versions of football have all derive from the codification of the sport in British public schools in the 19th century. HTH :-D
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
-
BiggerDon wrote:
So, this is what we've gotten...poor sportsmanship. I love college football, have since we lived in a college town when I was young, but I am disgusted with these "power conferences" and their sense of entitlement
Of course rose colored glasses are known for working better when reminiscing about the remembered past. Even better when one looks back long ago.
Oh, things were very ugly in the upper reaches of college football in the sixties, when some teams would sign all of the top picks in their state and the surrounding states. The purpose was to starve the competition. The NCAA put in rules to stop that practice, which I think helped college football to grow because of greater parity. Even then the idea of running up a score was something just not done unless there was real animosity between the teams. The need to show dominance, much like the days of starving opponents, means more due to the play off system.
cat fud heer
-
Oh, things were very ugly in the upper reaches of college football in the sixties, when some teams would sign all of the top picks in their state and the surrounding states. The purpose was to starve the competition. The NCAA put in rules to stop that practice, which I think helped college football to grow because of greater parity. Even then the idea of running up a score was something just not done unless there was real animosity between the teams. The need to show dominance, much like the days of starving opponents, means more due to the play off system.
cat fud heer
BiggerDon wrote:
Oh, things were very ugly in the upper reaches of college football in the sixties
Not to mention such public scandals as point shaving with criminal involvement and paying players. There was probably much more 'help' in passing classes as well.