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  • M Mario Vernari

    [sarcasm]Happy to read that even the "great Germany" sees itself split in various "ethnic groups".[/sarcasm] BTW, I learn German (or whatever you call it) in the school. I'm low on practice, but should be able to read, at least. Good idea, anyway!

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    Uwe Keim
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    Thanks a lot. I believe that German is a rather difficult language to learn.

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    • U Uwe Keim

      As much doubts as I have, I bravely set up a brand new German Developer community: entwicklergate.de [^]. I felt the need for something like this because the existing German communities in my opinion either have a low quality or have a rather confusing look and feel. Therefore I'm using the awesome new distraction-free discussion system Discourse [^] software of Jeff Atwood. Time will tell, whether the community will be able to attract a large enough user base to actually be helpful to anyone...

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      FIorian Schneidereit
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      Yet another website to register an account. Kudos to your effort for setting this up, but I'm still not sure if it is really needed. I'd guess one reason that German communities are of low quality could be that many Germans seem to prefer to look at and ask questions in English-speaking communities, and it makes sense because they will naturally reach a lot more people out there than just their own folks.

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      • F FIorian Schneidereit

        Yet another website to register an account. Kudos to your effort for setting this up, but I'm still not sure if it is really needed. I'd guess one reason that German communities are of low quality could be that many Germans seem to prefer to look at and ask questions in English-speaking communities, and it makes sense because they will naturally reach a lot more people out there than just their own folks.

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        Uwe Keim
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        Thanks, Florian I've included all SSO providers available (Facebook, Twitter, Google, github) to lower the pain of registering yet another account.

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          Thanks a lot. I believe that German is a rather difficult language to learn.

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          Mario Vernari
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          I could say the same for "Italienische"... :) Going off-topic...I was several times in Germany (especially in Bayern), Austria and South-Tyrol (Italy). What I realized is that the "German" I've learn in the school (7 years) should be the one spoken in Koeln. Sometimes the teachers explained pronunciation differences (e.g. "ch" in "Ich") as in Hamburg, or Switzerland. One of the most difficult things I had in German is to pick the right gender for nouns: that's a real nightmare! That's even more difficult for us, because the Italian language dropped the "neutral" centuries ago. However, one of my biggest surprises was that there's NOT a common recognized rule for that, and different parts of Germany use different genders for the same noun. IMO, English is "simpler" just because has been used for tech, movies and other cultural waves, so that everyone wanted/forced to learn. Never had serious problem to understand, not to be understood in Germany: very friendly yet warmful people and lovely places! Gruess Gott!

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            Thanks a lot. I believe that German is a rather difficult language to learn.

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            As soon as you take an optional approach to grammar it's rather easy.

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            • F FIorian Schneidereit

              Yet another website to register an account. Kudos to your effort for setting this up, but I'm still not sure if it is really needed. I'd guess one reason that German communities are of low quality could be that many Germans seem to prefer to look at and ask questions in English-speaking communities, and it makes sense because they will naturally reach a lot more people out there than just their own folks.

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              Florian Rappl
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              I totally agree. I am only writing articles, documentation and much more in English. I also have a feeling that German content (also including certain magazines) is usually poor in quality, which is why I tend to go for English content directly.

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              • U Uwe Keim

                Thanks a lot. I believe that German is a rather difficult language to learn.

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                Forogar
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                I found it fairly easy. I found French to be much harder to learn - weird pronunciation and all those extra, unused letters in the words.

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                • F Florian Rappl

                  I totally agree. I am only writing articles, documentation and much more in English. I also have a feeling that German content (also including certain magazines) is usually poor in quality, which is why I tend to go for English content directly.

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                  Lost User
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                  Give it a chance. And I feel e.g. "ct" is a very high quality magazine ;)

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                    I found it fairly easy. I found French to be much harder to learn - weird pronunciation and all those extra, unused letters in the words.

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    Lost User
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                    Then you had the wrong teacher ;P

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                    • L Lost User

                      Give it a chance. And I feel e.g. "ct" is a very high quality magazine ;)

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                      Florian Rappl
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                      "ct" is probably the best. Please note the "certain" (do not confuse it with "all"). Caution: Little words may result in big differences.

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                      • L Lost User

                        Then you had the wrong teacher ;P

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                        Forogar
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                        No, clearly I had the right German teacher. Actually I was learning at a Swiss language school in Munich and being taught High-German by a Venezuelan teacher!

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        • M Mario Vernari

                          I could say the same for "Italienische"... :) Going off-topic...I was several times in Germany (especially in Bayern), Austria and South-Tyrol (Italy). What I realized is that the "German" I've learn in the school (7 years) should be the one spoken in Koeln. Sometimes the teachers explained pronunciation differences (e.g. "ch" in "Ich") as in Hamburg, or Switzerland. One of the most difficult things I had in German is to pick the right gender for nouns: that's a real nightmare! That's even more difficult for us, because the Italian language dropped the "neutral" centuries ago. However, one of my biggest surprises was that there's NOT a common recognized rule for that, and different parts of Germany use different genders for the same noun. IMO, English is "simpler" just because has been used for tech, movies and other cultural waves, so that everyone wanted/forced to learn. Never had serious problem to understand, not to be understood in Germany: very friendly yet warmful people and lovely places! Gruess Gott!

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                          Stefan_Lang
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                          I'm surprised you bring up Köln as an example for good(?) spoken german. Go look up songs of the Köln-based rock band BAP, and see if you can understand what they're singing. ;)

                          GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                          • S super

                            Though I live in Germany, Language barrier prevents me to be of much contribution

                            cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                            Lost User
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                            Though I don't live in Germany I will sign up just to practice my rusty german language skills :)

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