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  • L Lost User

    I believe one of the reasons K&R was popular, was that it saves vertical space, and therefore paper when you print your code. But how often do you print code these days? I cannot remember the last time I needed a hard copy of my code.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    I print my code, that's part of why I use so much vertical space. Room for notes, underlining, circling, etc.

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      I print my code, that's part of why I use so much vertical space. Room for notes, underlining, circling, etc.

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      that's part of why I use so much vertical space

      Makes sense!

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        My code will probably drive you nuts as I use Allman style. Always have, always will.

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        Gary Wheeler
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        Hmm. Did a quick Wikipedia check; I'm calling 'Allman style' 'vertical braces'. Apparently I'm already nuts.

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        • G Gary Wheeler

          Hmm. Did a quick Wikipedia check; I'm calling 'Allman style' 'vertical braces'. Apparently I'm already nuts.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          Lost User
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          Even at my advanced age I learn something new every day. The style I have used from as far back as I can remember is called "Allman"? Wow! I have been nuts for a long time. :laugh:

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          • G Gary Wheeler

            ... for the last vestiges of the old Republic have been swept away. My legacy C++ code was written in K&R brace style, as the gods intended. I write my C# using the vertical brace Allman[^] style, thereby appeasing those gods. The last week or so I've been doing significant work in the legacy code, and I can't stand it anymore. I've written a VS macro(*) to reformat K&R to vertical braces Allman form. (*) Yes, I know that VS can reformat code for you. The built-in stuff in VS2008 is pretty lame.

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            Rage
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            Yes, but ... tabs or spaces ?

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              Yes, but ... tabs or spaces ?

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              Gary Wheeler
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              Tabs originally, now spaces. The group couldn't agree on a tab size :rolleyes: .

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              • L Lost User

                Welcome to the club of the one and only true brace placement style! I'll take my coat.

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                H Brydon
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                If you mean 1tbs[^], you are describing an abomination unto all languages, IDEs and programmers.

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                • L Lost User

                  I believe one of the reasons K&R was popular, was that it saves vertical space, and therefore paper when you print your code. But how often do you print code these days? I cannot remember the last time I needed a hard copy of my code.

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                  H Brydon
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                  Cornelius Henning wrote:

                  it saves vertical space,

                  The more modern concern is ability to maximize the amount of code on a power point slide. [... to make a tangential point, the 'print' aspect is also the reason to use spaces and not tabs.]

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                  • L Lost User

                    I believe one of the reasons K&R was popular, was that it saves vertical space, and therefore paper when you print your code. But how often do you print code these days? I cannot remember the last time I needed a hard copy of my code.

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    On rare occasions I will still print a page or two of code when I'm refactoring C++. That's never necessary in C#, because the refactoring tools are so much better.

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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      On rare occasions I will still print a page or two of code when I'm refactoring C++. That's never necessary in C#, because the refactoring tools are so much better.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      Lost User
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                      I haven't worked in C++ for many years - only C#. Hence no requirement to print on my side.

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                      • G Gary Wheeler

                        Hmm. Did a quick Wikipedia check; I'm calling 'Allman style' 'vertical braces'. Apparently I'm already nuts.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Dave Kreskowiak
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                        Well then, welcome to the nut house! :-D

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                        • G Gary Wheeler

                          ... for the last vestiges of the old Republic have been swept away. My legacy C++ code was written in K&R brace style, as the gods intended. I write my C# using the vertical brace Allman[^] style, thereby appeasing those gods. The last week or so I've been doing significant work in the legacy code, and I can't stand it anymore. I've written a VS macro(*) to reformat K&R to vertical braces Allman form. (*) Yes, I know that VS can reformat code for you. The built-in stuff in VS2008 is pretty lame.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          Slacker007
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                          put it all on one line. then you don't have to worry about styles and shit like that.

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                          • G Gary Wheeler

                            ... for the last vestiges of the old Republic have been swept away. My legacy C++ code was written in K&R brace style, as the gods intended. I write my C# using the vertical brace Allman[^] style, thereby appeasing those gods. The last week or so I've been doing significant work in the legacy code, and I can't stand it anymore. I've written a VS macro(*) to reformat K&R to vertical braces Allman form. (*) Yes, I know that VS can reformat code for you. The built-in stuff in VS2008 is pretty lame.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            Gary, I'm sorry but we can't be friends any more. :( /ravi

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                              Gary, I'm sorry but we can't be friends any more. :( /ravi

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                              Gary Wheeler
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                              :((

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                              • G Gary Wheeler

                                :((

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                                I'm hoping you'll see the beauty in the K&R format and return to your roots.  Besides, IL generated from C# code written in the K&R format has been known to run faster. :) /ravi

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                                  I'm hoping you'll see the beauty in the K&R format and return to your roots.  Besides, IL generated from C# code written in the K&R format has been known to run faster. :) /ravi

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                                  Gary Wheeler
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                                  Ah, 'tis me leg you be pullin' there laddie. We all be knowin' that the only way to make managed code go faster be to whip the horse harder.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  • G Gary Wheeler

                                    Tabs originally, now spaces. The group couldn't agree on a tab size :rolleyes: .

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    The problem is that when indent size is measured in "characters" then it depends on font size -- the smaller the font (I use an 8-point font) then the more characters are required to make an effective indent.

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                                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                      My code will probably drive you nuts as I use Allman style. Always have, always will.

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      Yes, Allman is best.

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                                      • G Gary Wheeler

                                        On rare occasions I will still print a page or two of code when I'm refactoring C++. That's never necessary in C#, because the refactoring tools are so much better.

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        I've done it on rare occasions with C#; but only with 500-1000 line function monstrosities never should've been written in the first place.

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                                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                          You should vote for this suggestion[^]. :)


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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          But that would only affect Visual Studio? What rubbish. I still want some way of having comments somewhat separated from the code so you can hide or show them as desired. And maybe store the code in XML.

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