Google now tries to holds you to ransom to get your telephone number
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
I consider my everyday phone number about as private as my house's street number, both simply being means to direct communications to my. If I wanted to discuss anything off record, I'd simply get another one just for that purpose.
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A phone book must really freak you out then... I can change my phone number at any time. My phone number isn't me - it doesn't uniquely identify me. Unlike a social security number or thumbprint it may have belonged to someone else in the past or it may belong to someone else in the future. It is amazing to me that the average American citizen freaks out over Google having a phone number and the same borderline paranoid tool votes for Obama who has made our medical records the purview of the Internal Revenue Service. The government listening in on thousands of calls, breaking privacy laws left and right - and people get upset over a phone number that is available in a directory. I'm upset Google has my phone number because, I dunno, they might call me; however, I don't care that the government is recording my phone calls. <---- *boggle*
MehGerbil wrote:
A phone book must really freak you out then...
:laugh:
No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
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there's a very good reason: it helps keep people from hacking into your account(s).
Keeping things in boxes under your pillow helps keep people from stealing them. Storing such information on the server of a foreign company just makes it available to the government of that country, and puts it all in one place to be hacked in one go -- although that would never happen, would it? I mean, who would spend a few months figuring out how to hack a server that's full of wonders, rather than spend a few days each on individual Internet users, managing maybe six a month?
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Keeping things in boxes under your pillow helps keep people from stealing them. Storing such information on the server of a foreign company just makes it available to the government of that country, and puts it all in one place to be hacked in one go -- although that would never happen, would it? I mean, who would spend a few months figuring out how to hack a server that's full of wonders, rather than spend a few days each on individual Internet users, managing maybe six a month?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
this might come as a shock to you, but your phone provider knows your phone number, so does everyone you call. it is not sensitive confidential identification, it's a phone number.
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
Dr Gadgit wrote:
Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet.
Actually - that Nanny State you speak of would be more likely to pass a law to protect you from yourself by forbidding Google for doing what they do. But - partly because CP is the closest I have to membership in a social network and partly because I've been worried about my privacy before it was in fashion, I have no sympathy for complaints by the oh-so-many people with gmail accounts. One agrees, after all, that google can do what they like with your mail for as long as they like. The beacon/etc. on nearly every sight - can be blocked with Ghostery - SSL cookies, too, can be managed/deleted, etc. Google's not doing anything every other business is doing. They might suck, but not especially so. I don't want a YT/Twatter/other account and do not text - and it isn't google that's hassling me over it.
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this might come as a shock to you, but your phone provider knows your phone number, so does everyone you call. it is not sensitive confidential identification, it's a phone number.
My phone provider is not controlled by a foreign government.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Hey Doc, you can borrow my tin foil hat, sounds like you need it more than I do. I applaud your paranoia, but then I have similar attitudes, just not the dedication to do something about it! While I try hard to minimise the exposure of personal data I don't take it to extremes. Google has my phone number and probably every other salient, or at least commercial piece of information about me, I own a phone :sigh: I still think you are even more nuts than I am :laugh:
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I think you're over-reacting. Honestly, it's a freaking phone number. Who cares?
Dr Gadgit wrote:
hey have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world
If there's a spy script on my website, it's because I put it there, or because the provider (like SquareSpace) put it there. And as far as Squarespace putting it there, all the better, as it provides some automatic indexing that makes my website more visible. Marc
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You can probably set up Google authenticator as [^] as a part of 2 step verification. Having done this, I have never been asked for phone number. But then, I do not comment on or upload videos on YouTube.
Thanks for the offer mate but i have as little to do with google as i can and they are the problem and not any part of the solution. They should just stick to running a seach engine and not be forcing people to host spyscripts for them or else the site ends up on page 79 of any search results. Also they should stop sorting the results to present a fake picture of the real world as is the case when it comes to politics
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Yes indeed so, no google scripts, bad google rating and your are on page 76 of any google search results. I don't blame you one bit but don't take any stats you get for the site serious
Dr Gadgit wrote:
I don't blame you one bit but don't take any stats you get for the site serious
Heck, I don't even look at the stats! :) Marc
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Thanks for the offer mate but i have as little to do with google as i can and they are the problem and not any part of the solution. They should just stick to running a seach engine and not be forcing people to host spyscripts for them or else the site ends up on page 79 of any search results. Also they should stop sorting the results to present a fake picture of the real world as is the case when it comes to politics
Dr Gadgit wrote:
Thanks for the offer mate but i have as little to do with google as i can and they are the problem and not any part of the solution.
I have a very different opinion on this. Some Google products are extremely valuable. For other points you mentioned, I consider that are mere speculation. I am not saying it is false but it is not proven to be true either.
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TV's, Tablets, Laptops and phones are all merging into one and if we give into them wanting our phone numbers then will it be our national insurance number next because they think they can own you. Google is so big in parts of india that the locals think the internet is google. My privacy has no price and politicians who should be passing laws to protect it are taking payments from corporaions to infrindge more into my life whilst at the same time trying to squash freedom of speech. Feel free to shoot me down but i see a time not too far away when you have to decide if you will let them implant you with a RFID chip (Like a dog) to get that new job all for security reasons ofcourse and not only that but you will be made to ware a form of google glasses just so the manager can keep an eye on you, it's all profit you know. We are well past the point were we need to take up this fight and should be pushing back. See http://www.truthorfiction.com/nbc-rfid-chips-prediction/ also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934241/Swedish-company-implants-microchips-staff.html I won't have any part of this madness anymore Ho, yes and this is from a guy that built a system for a well known corporation that turned workers into slaves and had them scanning bar code every ten seconds after unpacking goods and even scanning a bar-code on the toilet door when they went for a pee and that was ten years ago.
Your're missing the original point man.
Jeremy Falcon
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Dr Gadgit wrote:
Two stage registration won't help matters.
...ummmm.... Two Step Verification doesn't have anything to do with Google search or advertising. You seem to have a bias and an agenda as it relates to Google. Good luck with that...
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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I had the same thing a few weeks back, with IMDB, but they gave me the choice of phone or credit-card number. There is no good reason to give either to a web-site in any on-the-verge-of-totalitarianism country, so I deleted my account. It's a bit more of a wrench deleting an e-mail account, but it's the advisable course of action.
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At least they let you delete the account. Ashley Madison lets you disable your account...for free. But if you want to actually delete it? $19, please.
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Dr Gadgit wrote:
Thanks for the offer mate but i have as little to do with google as i can and they are the problem and not any part of the solution.
I have a very different opinion on this. Some Google products are extremely valuable. For other points you mentioned, I consider that are mere speculation. I am not saying it is false but it is not proven to be true either.
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Your're missing the original point man.
Jeremy Falcon
You could be right but make no mistake i have nothing good to say for ISP's and advise anyone to chuck the free router they give you away and buy yourself a firewall that stops the ISP's browsing youn LAN and I also know that was governments not paying Google for its data then they would be a lot less spying going on.