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    Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    How about an IDE that loads all the crap *after* it has opened and not before? That way if I want to check a file I don't have to wait three days and slaughter a small chicken just to check how something was done. Bastard coders, too smart for there own godo!

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      I use case number or Wiki ID as a comment. VisualAssist SourceLinks[^] plugin turns these comments into links.

      // Just double click bugz:12345 to see a nice picture of a aardvark

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      I'm going to have to ding you for poor commenting! The indeffinate article before a vowel is 'an' not 'a'!

      veni bibi saltavi

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        Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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        Daniel Pfeffer
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        This still doesn't solve the problem of changing requirements, changing code, etc. 1. How do you ensure that comments remain current when requirements have been added / deleted? 2. ditto when code has been modified.

        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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          How about an IDE that loads all the crap *after* it has opened and not before? That way if I want to check a file I don't have to wait three days and slaughter a small chicken just to check how something was done. Bastard coders, too smart for there own godo!

          veni bibi saltavi

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          Lost User
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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          too smart for there own godo!

          I was waiting for that :)

          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            How about an IDE that loads all the crap *after* it has opened and not before? That way if I want to check a file I don't have to wait three days and slaughter a small chicken just to check how something was done. Bastard coders, too smart for there own godo!

            veni bibi saltavi

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            Now that's something one can agree on :thumbsup:

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              This still doesn't solve the problem of changing requirements, changing code, etc. 1. How do you ensure that comments remain current when requirements have been added / deleted? 2. ditto when code has been modified.

              If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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              Go live in Utopia, there the specs are not changed afterwards :rolleyes:. I'm a bit surprised that everyone is worried about bloating or about the maintainence of this. I wouldn't have thought about putting these attachments everywhere I go, rather use it where normal comments don't really cut it. But I admit, I do live in my own private small world were none can enter ;-)

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                I'm going to have to ding you for poor commenting! The indeffinate article before a vowel is 'an' not 'a'!

                veni bibi saltavi

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                "Anise Aardvark" is the name of the office mascot. She's humble, that's why all lowercase.

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                  This still doesn't solve the problem of changing requirements, changing code, etc. 1. How do you ensure that comments remain current when requirements have been added / deleted? 2. ditto when code has been modified.

                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  85 million years ago, we had a simple submission check tool. The rules where that every file had a comment header with mod history and every public method had one too; this is all pre XML clever type doc/comments. If they were not there, or unchanged, the change could not be submitted. Simple yet effective.

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                    I'm pretty sure the risk is limited. It isn't a website and most teams are limited in size. You could build in a feature that seriously limits the file size per "attachment" and it will always remain more tedious to add an image than to write a comment.

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                    Brisingr Aerowing
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                    Or just make a link that, when clicked, opens the file. Shouldn't be all that hard to do. I don't know anything about Visual Studio AddIns/Extensions/etc, though.

                    What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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                      Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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                      Richard Deeming
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                      Something like this[^], or this[^]?


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                        Something like this[^], or this[^]?


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                        Exactly. Just tried and googled and none of them is working... unfortunately.

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                          Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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                          Heck, I want a 3 dimensional code editor. You have an if statement? The code branches orthogonally to the main code "vector". If-else? Same idea, but with two orthogonal branches. nested loops? Again, you can render that in 3D rather than a 2D "one inside the other" surface. It would really be quite fascinating to see code represented three dimensionally and be able to fly around it, zoom in/out, etc. Marc

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                            Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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                            5 seconds after you attach an image to a line of code, the requirements change, and the image/doc/whatever is now useless. I worked on a project where we all had the spec printed out on our desk. It was 3" thick - and VERY outdated. We spent more time discussing what the spec really meant than coding it. Any spec is outdated the moment it's saved. Now imagine that attached to ever changing code. Mass confusion ensues. Terrible idea.

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                              Heck, I want a 3 dimensional code editor. You have an if statement? The code branches orthogonally to the main code "vector". If-else? Same idea, but with two orthogonal branches. nested loops? Again, you can render that in 3D rather than a 2D "one inside the other" surface. It would really be quite fascinating to see code represented three dimensionally and be able to fly around it, zoom in/out, etc. Marc

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                              How would recursive functions be handled?

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                                Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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                                My first thought is if you need a picture to explain what is going on, it might be time to refactor and simplify.

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                                  Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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                                  Valery Possoz
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                                  There is already an extension that does that (and a bit more...) Look for MarkdownComments in the tools/Entensions and update menu.

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                                    85 million years ago, we had a simple submission check tool. The rules where that every file had a comment header with mod history and every public method had one too; this is all pre XML clever type doc/comments. If they were not there, or unchanged, the change could not be submitted. Simple yet effective.

                                    veni bibi saltavi

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                                    Daniel Pfeffer
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                                    The tool you describe can ensure that a comment exists; it can't ensure that the comment is current. I suppose that a slightly more sophisticated tool could ensure that comments are modified along with functions, but that is not always necessary (e.g. fixing a bug would not necessarily change the description of a function). Until this problem is solved, any fancy tools that e.g. link a function to the requirement that was responsible for it are worse than useless.

                                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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