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  • D Daniel Pfeffer

    This still doesn't solve the problem of changing requirements, changing code, etc. 1. How do you ensure that comments remain current when requirements have been added / deleted? 2. ditto when code has been modified.

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    Go live in Utopia, there the specs are not changed afterwards :rolleyes:. I'm a bit surprised that everyone is worried about bloating or about the maintainence of this. I wouldn't have thought about putting these attachments everywhere I go, rather use it where normal comments don't really cut it. But I admit, I do live in my own private small world were none can enter ;-)

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      I'm going to have to ding you for poor commenting! The indeffinate article before a vowel is 'an' not 'a'!

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      peterchen
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      "Anise Aardvark" is the name of the office mascot. She's humble, that's why all lowercase.

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      • D Daniel Pfeffer

        This still doesn't solve the problem of changing requirements, changing code, etc. 1. How do you ensure that comments remain current when requirements have been added / deleted? 2. ditto when code has been modified.

        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        85 million years ago, we had a simple submission check tool. The rules where that every file had a comment header with mod history and every public method had one too; this is all pre XML clever type doc/comments. If they were not there, or unchanged, the change could not be submitted. Simple yet effective.

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        • V V 0

          I'm pretty sure the risk is limited. It isn't a website and most teams are limited in size. You could build in a feature that seriously limits the file size per "attachment" and it will always remain more tedious to add an image than to write a comment.

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          Brisingr Aerowing
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          Or just make a link that, when clicked, opens the file. Shouldn't be all that hard to do. I don't know anything about Visual Studio AddIns/Extensions/etc, though.

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          • V V 0

            Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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            Something like this[^], or this[^]?


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            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

              Something like this[^], or this[^]?


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              Exactly. Just tried and googled and none of them is working... unfortunately.

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                Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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                Marc Clifton
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                Heck, I want a 3 dimensional code editor. You have an if statement? The code branches orthogonally to the main code "vector". If-else? Same idea, but with two orthogonal branches. nested loops? Again, you can render that in 3D rather than a 2D "one inside the other" surface. It would really be quite fascinating to see code represented three dimensionally and be able to fly around it, zoom in/out, etc. Marc

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                  Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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                  Kevin Marois
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                  5 seconds after you attach an image to a line of code, the requirements change, and the image/doc/whatever is now useless. I worked on a project where we all had the spec printed out on our desk. It was 3" thick - and VERY outdated. We spent more time discussing what the spec really meant than coding it. Any spec is outdated the moment it's saved. Now imagine that attached to ever changing code. Mass confusion ensues. Terrible idea.

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Heck, I want a 3 dimensional code editor. You have an if statement? The code branches orthogonally to the main code "vector". If-else? Same idea, but with two orthogonal branches. nested loops? Again, you can render that in 3D rather than a 2D "one inside the other" surface. It would really be quite fascinating to see code represented three dimensionally and be able to fly around it, zoom in/out, etc. Marc

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                    How would recursive functions be handled?

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                      Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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                      Stryder_1
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                      My first thought is if you need a picture to explain what is going on, it might be time to refactor and simplify.

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                        Am I the only one who wants a feature in visual studio (or any other IDE) that can have images as comments? The idea would be that you have some sort of button in the side bar (when an image was attached at that location) and if you hover over it you see the image you attached. This image could contain a use-case, a drawing or a print out of a file you read in as example, ... If we think further you could attach paragraphs of the functional/technical documentation that are relevant for this piece of code. (but that might be overdoing it too) Just thinking out loud, but I feel the plain text comment is not sufficient ;-) What do you think?

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                        Valery Possoz
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                        There is already an extension that does that (and a bit more...) Look for MarkdownComments in the tools/Entensions and update menu.

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          85 million years ago, we had a simple submission check tool. The rules where that every file had a comment header with mod history and every public method had one too; this is all pre XML clever type doc/comments. If they were not there, or unchanged, the change could not be submitted. Simple yet effective.

                          veni bibi saltavi

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                          Daniel Pfeffer
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                          The tool you describe can ensure that a comment exists; it can't ensure that the comment is current. I suppose that a slightly more sophisticated tool could ensure that comments are modified along with functions, but that is not always necessary (e.g. fixing a bug would not necessarily change the description of a function). Until this problem is solved, any fancy tools that e.g. link a function to the requirement that was responsible for it are worse than useless.

                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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