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  • M Marc Clifton

    XP was a great improvement over 3.1. I skipped the stuff inbetween then and was happy to upgrade to W7. But I definitely loathed the new Metro look of W8, and I'm really reluctant to install W10. And since I have updates disabled, I haven't been bothered with pesky notices, downloads, and all that crap. In fact, I bought a nice new laptop a couple weeks ago and opted for W7. It did come with a thumb drive to upgrade to W10, it's sitting somewhere on my desk getting dusty. So I wonder, what has happened that I'm just not looking forward to upgrading? How did Microsoft kill my enthusiasm? (Well, Metro is one answer.) Marc

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    It has a lot of bugs, and the recent upgrades broke things that were working. The start menu is nice, but it often freezes; the notification center is cool, but it regularly stops working (sometimes killing explorer.exe does the trick, sometimes it doesn't). I don't have Cortana because it's not available in my country, even though I installed the OS in English, so I really can't tell how good it is. The touch screen sometimes it won't show up when a textbox gets the focus, in tablet mode (which has rendered my Surface 3 Pro useless without the keyboard, since it won't let me enter my password). The apps are buggy too, especially the mail and calendar app. It's better than Weight, however, and has many improvements. Metro apps now are Windowed (in desktop mode) so I can have my Netflix app running alongside Visual Studio, without flickering. Continuum feature is great in my Surface. Snap views work cool with any app regardless of their origin (Win32, WPF, Metro). So I think it's a better OS than Weight, and slightly better than Weven. When the OS becomes stable (because IMHO this is still a beta product) it will become the best Windows OS so far. Until then...

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    • I itprorh66

      Check out the following two articles concerning the way Microsoft is gathering informaton.

      http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2489212,00.asp

      http://lifehacker.com/what-windows-10s-privacy-nightmare-settings-actually-1722267229

      from other discussions, it is clear that you can protect yourself from most of the data collection, that not all data collection is controlled from the privacy settings and no one is sure what data is being collected or for what reason. Thus my paranoia

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      Yep, both articles basically say it is no big deal and if you are paranoid, turn off what you can. I feel sorry for paranoid people. Really.

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        Yep, both articles basically say it is no big deal and if you are paranoid, turn off what you can. I feel sorry for paranoid people. Really.

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        I guess I have been toying with the move to linux for several years and this maybe the straw that breaks the camel's back so to speak. I will most likely stick with Win7 for awhile and see what happens, and maybe load a second laptop with a linux distro and see how that goes.

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          I guess I have been toying with the move to linux for several years and this maybe the straw that breaks the camel's back so to speak. I will most likely stick with Win7 for awhile and see what happens, and maybe load a second laptop with a linux distro and see how that goes.

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          I can't even imagine going back to Windows 8, let alone Windows 7. Good luck with that Linux thingee.

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          • M Marc Clifton

            XP was a great improvement over 3.1. I skipped the stuff inbetween then and was happy to upgrade to W7. But I definitely loathed the new Metro look of W8, and I'm really reluctant to install W10. And since I have updates disabled, I haven't been bothered with pesky notices, downloads, and all that crap. In fact, I bought a nice new laptop a couple weeks ago and opted for W7. It did come with a thumb drive to upgrade to W10, it's sitting somewhere on my desk getting dusty. So I wonder, what has happened that I'm just not looking forward to upgrading? How did Microsoft kill my enthusiasm? (Well, Metro is one answer.) Marc

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            Sounds to me like you're just getting old and crotchety. Maybe you just need to get some.

            Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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            • M mtiede

              Yep, both articles basically say it is no big deal and if you are paranoid, turn off what you can. I feel sorry for paranoid people. Really.

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              Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you or aren't spying on you...:~

              Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                Sounds to me like you're just getting old and crotchety. Maybe you just need to get some.

                Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                Marc Clifton
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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                Maybe you just need to get some.

                Some what, Wen? They clearly skipped Wine! ;) Marc

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                  Maybe you just need to get some.

                  Some what, Wen? They clearly skipped Wine! ;) Marc

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                  ;)

                  Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    True, it's been so long, I forgot about Win95 and Win2000. I had those installed as well. Marc

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                    I still have my installation disks for Win95, Win97, Win98, Win2K, WinXP, Win8.1. If I have to rebuild this machine, I'm stuck -- no Win10 installation disk.

                    The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      XP was a great improvement over 3.1. I skipped the stuff inbetween then and was happy to upgrade to W7. But I definitely loathed the new Metro look of W8, and I'm really reluctant to install W10. And since I have updates disabled, I haven't been bothered with pesky notices, downloads, and all that crap. In fact, I bought a nice new laptop a couple weeks ago and opted for W7. It did come with a thumb drive to upgrade to W10, it's sitting somewhere on my desk getting dusty. So I wonder, what has happened that I'm just not looking forward to upgrading? How did Microsoft kill my enthusiasm? (Well, Metro is one answer.) Marc

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                      I finally managed to get a stable looking Win 10 installation after 4 failed attempts. The trick is, if dual booting, to turn off Smart Start. Now I can boot into Win7 or Win10 and it seems to be happy. Before that I was tearing my hair (only one) out. Not sure if I like Win10 yet. Cortana seems to work about as well as any other speech recognition application. I.e. Doesn't understand my West Country accent. I have no use whatsoever for a 3D modelling application. Hate the tiles. Dumped them straight away. And so on. Whinge whinge whinge...

                      I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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