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  • C CPallini

    We call it 'Jon Skeeticism'.

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    :laugh: Is he that famous now ?

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      I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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      Why wouldn't it make sense?

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        Why wouldn't it make sense?

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        Abhinav S
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        I don't know.

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        • C CPallini

          We call it 'Jon Skeeticism'.

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          Abhinav S
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          Not a clue what you are talking about.

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            :laugh: Is he that famous now ?

            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            chriselst
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            Never heard of him[^]

            Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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            • A Abhinav S

              I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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              den2k88
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              I do fine knowing none of them (actually I "know" C#, the little I needed to port an old VS6 Add-In to VS2008 and a little of C++/CLI, the minimum to create a DLL accessible both from VB6 and from .NET), it really depends on the field you work into. If you work on microcontrollers or have a strong integration with hardware you wouldn't probably need them except on occasional basis.

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                Never heard of him[^]

                Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                ROTFL, OK OK, you win.

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                • A Abhinav S

                  I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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                  W Balboos GHB
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                  Well - you only need to know what your need to use. Learn other things that you want to learn. I do .NET because that's how you write M$ compatible stuff. I never got around to Java, but C, C++, C#, etc. should get me there if the need arises. On the other hand, they used to have a java programmer here - and he left for what he thought were greener pastures. They didn't bother replacing him. The real answer is: you need to know what they expect you to know even before they know what they think need.

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

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                  • A Abhinav S

                    I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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                    I think it's worth learning a couple of languages. I've gone for .NET plus web (HTML/JS/jQuery + Frameworks/CSS + LESS/SASS), SQL and Apple Swift. I'll learn Java when the opportunity appears (probably when I get asked to port an iOS app to Android). No harm in making yourself more marketable these days, and it's nice to work on a variety of projects :)

                    How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                    • C CPallini

                      We call it 'Jon Skeeticism'.

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                      Slacker007
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                      We used to joke about this in another shop I worked at. If faced with a issue or problem we would ask, "What would Jon Skeet do?" Always got a few laughs. :)

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                      • A Abhinav S

                        I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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                        Amarnath S
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                        IMHO, a developer should ultimately* become 'language independent', within reasonable limits**. Meaning that (s)he should be able to quickly implement a (an elegant) solution in any of those languages, (with help from Internet resources). * over a period of ten years, say. ** about 4-5 languages, including a 'GUI language', and a web language.

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                        • A Abhinav S

                          I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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                          If they actually use Java, then yes. Which does indeed not make sense, if you can use .NET :)

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                          • A Abhinav S

                            I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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                            Ian Shlasko
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                            Eh, I know .NET... I like .NET... But since all of my .NET projects are on hold for various reasons, I was put on a few Java projects... So I re-taught myself Java... And you know what? I still like .NET. elephanting type erasure...

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                            • A Abhinav S

                              I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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                              Java in itself doesn´t make sense, so what do you think the combination of the two will be? :-\

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                              • A Abhinav S

                                I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                I use C# (and have used VB.net X| ), and wouldn't mind knowing Java for Android, but I really can't be bothered. (Yes, I've heard of Xamarin, but I don't pay for development tools.)

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                                • A Abhinav S

                                  I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

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                                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                                  Abhinav S wrote:

                                  Does is really make sense

                                  It happens to be the case in my company, where we have a .NET app server and a set of clients that include Android. /ravi

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                                    IMHO, a developer should ultimately* become 'language independent', within reasonable limits**. Meaning that (s)he should be able to quickly implement a (an elegant) solution in any of those languages, (with help from Internet resources). * over a period of ten years, say. ** about 4-5 languages, including a 'GUI language', and a web language.

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                                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                                    Avijnata wrote:

                                    IMHO, a developer should ultimately* become 'language independent', within reasonable limits**.

                                    :thumbsup: /ravi

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                                    • A Abhinav S

                                      I don't know.

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                                      BillWoodruff
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                                      Is it nonsensical to say that one doesn't know why one doesn't know why something does not make sense ? Is to ask the above question to advance the hypothesis that what does not make sense is always recursive ? Let me get back to you on this in a few more kalpas. cheers, Bill

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                                      • A Amarnath S

                                        IMHO, a developer should ultimately* become 'language independent', within reasonable limits**. Meaning that (s)he should be able to quickly implement a (an elegant) solution in any of those languages, (with help from Internet resources). * over a period of ten years, say. ** about 4-5 languages, including a 'GUI language', and a web language.

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                                        Sander Rossel
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                                        Avijnata wrote:

                                        * over a period of ten years, say.

                                        Taking your sweet time :wtf:

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                                        • A Abhinav S

                                          I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?

                                          Mobile Apps - Sound Meter | Color Analyzer | SMBC | Football Doodles

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                                          Sander Rossel
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                                          The discussion makes no sense at all. Know what you must and if you need something else learn it. .NET C# and Java aren't all that different, except for the library, and event handling, and properties, and checked Exceptions, and...

                                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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