Programming Languages
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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I do fine knowing none of them (actually I "know" C#, the little I needed to port an old VS6 Add-In to VS2008 and a little of C++/CLI, the minimum to create a DLL accessible both from VB6 and from .NET), it really depends on the field you work into. If you work on microcontrollers or have a strong integration with hardware you wouldn't probably need them except on occasional basis.
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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Well - you only need to know what your need to use. Learn other things that you want to learn. I do .NET because that's how you write M$ compatible stuff. I never got around to Java, but C, C++, C#, etc. should get me there if the need arises. On the other hand, they used to have a java programmer here - and he left for what he thought were greener pastures. They didn't bother replacing him. The real answer is: you need to know what they expect you to know even before they know what they think need.
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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I think it's worth learning a couple of languages. I've gone for .NET plus web (HTML/JS/jQuery + Frameworks/CSS + LESS/SASS), SQL and Apple Swift. I'll learn Java when the opportunity appears (probably when I get asked to port an iOS app to Android). No harm in making yourself more marketable these days, and it's nice to work on a variety of projects :)
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We used to joke about this in another shop I worked at. If faced with a issue or problem we would ask, "What would Jon Skeet do?" Always got a few laughs. :)
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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IMHO, a developer should ultimately* become 'language independent', within reasonable limits**. Meaning that (s)he should be able to quickly implement a (an elegant) solution in any of those languages, (with help from Internet resources). * over a period of ten years, say. ** about 4-5 languages, including a 'GUI language', and a web language.
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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Eh, I know .NET... I like .NET... But since all of my .NET projects are on hold for various reasons, I was put on a few Java projects... So I re-taught myself Java... And you know what? I still like .NET. elephanting type erasure...
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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I use C# (and have used VB.net X| ), and wouldn't mind knowing Java for Android, but I really can't be bothered. (Yes, I've heard of Xamarin, but I don't pay for development tools.)
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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Abhinav S wrote:
Does is really make sense
It happens to be the case in my company, where we have a .NET app server and a set of clients that include Android. /ravi
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IMHO, a developer should ultimately* become 'language independent', within reasonable limits**. Meaning that (s)he should be able to quickly implement a (an elegant) solution in any of those languages, (with help from Internet resources). * over a period of ten years, say. ** about 4-5 languages, including a 'GUI language', and a web language.
Avijnata wrote:
IMHO, a developer should ultimately* become 'language independent', within reasonable limits**.
:thumbsup: /ravi
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I don't know.
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Is it nonsensical to say that one doesn't know why one doesn't know why something does not make sense ? Is to ask the above question to advance the hypothesis that what does not make sense is always recursive ? Let me get back to you on this in a few more kalpas. cheers, Bill
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IMHO, a developer should ultimately* become 'language independent', within reasonable limits**. Meaning that (s)he should be able to quickly implement a (an elegant) solution in any of those languages, (with help from Internet resources). * over a period of ten years, say. ** about 4-5 languages, including a 'GUI language', and a web language.
Avijnata wrote:
* over a period of ten years, say.
Taking your sweet time :wtf:
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Regards, Sander
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I hear lot of discussions now where a developer is expected to know both .Net and Java. Does is really make sense (or a difference for that matter)?
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The discussion makes no sense at all. Know what you must and if you need something else learn it. .NET C# and Java aren't all that different, except for the library, and event handling, and properties, and checked Exceptions, and...
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Avijnata wrote:
* over a period of ten years, say.
Taking your sweet time :wtf:
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Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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Experience != Skill Knowing the foundations of OOP, SQL and some FP I can pretty much write any (major) language with relative ease. Add to that knowledge of basic structures such as arrays, lists, hashtables, graphs, etc. and some knowledge of common algorithms and you're pretty good to go. Get familiar with some desktop and some web development too. Took me about five years. I'm not saying I know everything (no one ever will) or that I'm some superstar programmer, but I'm sure as hell better than a lot of 10+ years experience seniors I've met (when it comes to programming anyway) :)
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Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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Is it nonsensical to say that one doesn't know why one doesn't know why something does not make sense ? Is to ask the above question to advance the hypothesis that what does not make sense is always recursive ? Let me get back to you on this in a few more kalpas. cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
BillWoodruff wrote:
Is it nonsensical to say that one doesn't know why one doesn't know why something does not make sense ?
Makes sense. That could be a sig.
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IMHO, a developer should ultimately* become 'language independent', within reasonable limits**. Meaning that (s)he should be able to quickly implement a (an elegant) solution in any of those languages, (with help from Internet resources). * over a period of ten years, say. ** about 4-5 languages, including a 'GUI language', and a web language.
Not bragging, but one does tend to accumulate a volume of languages over the decades. I'm not entirely certain, but the count was somewhere in the vicinity of 1217, counting all variants and experimental versions. I still have some of the reference manuals from my first projects -- pre-internet. When I started in the industry, one was required to only know six languages (Basic, COBOL, Fortran, RPG, Assembler and ALGOL/Pascal). All the rest are derivatives of at least one of those six. If you don't believe me, please explain why a large number of language reference manuals contain a syntactic reference section written in Backus-Naur (ALGOL) form.
The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.
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Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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