FaceBook Is Toast: Spread some PHP on it.
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Stop using Facebook and your troubles with Facebook will go away?
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Stop using Facebook and your troubles with Facebook will go away?
I agree. I'm more interested in the failure of the Social Login though. It is interesting -- and to me, unexpected -- that if Facebook is down then I cannot use my Facebook login to login in to other sites. OAuth Failure? Is this an OAuth failure? Maybe.
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I agree. I'm more interested in the failure of the Social Login though. It is interesting -- and to me, unexpected -- that if Facebook is down then I cannot use my Facebook login to login in to other sites. OAuth Failure? Is this an OAuth failure? Maybe.
newton.saber wrote:
unexpected -- that if Facebook is down then I cannot use my Facebook login to login in to other site
How is that unexpected? Facebook is the one authenticating you so if it is down, you can't be authenticated.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Facebook seems to be down for me right now. I've heard there've been recent problems. Now, consider this... If you use Facebook as your Social Login at other sites, you probably can't get into those either. Terrible!! Unintended consequences...
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Stop using Facebook and your troubles with Facebook will go away?
Wish I could. Unfortunately, it is a great way of staying in touch with children, relatives and old friends when we live on different continents.
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newton.saber wrote:
unexpected -- that if Facebook is down then I cannot use my Facebook login to login in to other site
How is that unexpected? Facebook is the one authenticating you so if it is down, you can't be authenticated.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Right. Not meaning it is unexpected like, duh...facebook is down why can't I log into facebook... :laugh: More like, uh... Facebook is down and I can't login to another site which has nothing to do with Facebook... except, oh wait... I use facebook OAuth.... Here's why it is unexpected... ... Uhh...facebook, even if you go down, I should be able to get to the OAuth piece so make it work!! However, I do believe this points out why you SHOULD NOT use facebook as your OAuth login provider. Because FB is a failure. Use Google or Twitter as your OAuth login provider instead. Ahh...
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Facebook seems to be down for me right now. I've heard there've been recent problems. Now, consider this... If you use Facebook as your Social Login at other sites, you probably can't get into those either. Terrible!! Unintended consequences...
newton.saber wrote:
If you use Facebook as your Social Login at other sites
Sounds like an "all eggs / one basket" issue -- best avoided. I don't use sites that only allow access from some other site.
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Farcebook came on line here in Florida a minute ago.
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon
I see that Newsweek is blogging on the issue in real time: http://www.newsweek.com/facebook-goes-down-second-time-week-377660[^]
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newton.saber wrote:
If you use Facebook as your Social Login at other sites
Sounds like an "all eggs / one basket" issue -- best avoided. I don't use sites that only allow access from some other site.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Sounds like an "all eggs / one basket" issue
I understand your point and I agree with you from the "yes, all the hype about single sign on is really just that since humans fail at everything" standpoint. However, I also believe in single sign on via OAuth because it is quite a bit safer having fewer access points for the hackers to get you and having fewer passwords to remember. However, I'm sure you'll say, "fewer access points for hte hackers to get you, are you crazy?!" But, I'm saying it in an exaggerated way like: "if humans could do one simple thing right like give me one super-secure sign on that is always guarded so that no hackers could ever get through." However, I know, humans cannot do anything right. :laugh:
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Sounds like an "all eggs / one basket" issue
I understand your point and I agree with you from the "yes, all the hype about single sign on is really just that since humans fail at everything" standpoint. However, I also believe in single sign on via OAuth because it is quite a bit safer having fewer access points for the hackers to get you and having fewer passwords to remember. However, I'm sure you'll say, "fewer access points for hte hackers to get you, are you crazy?!" But, I'm saying it in an exaggerated way like: "if humans could do one simple thing right like give me one super-secure sign on that is always guarded so that no hackers could ever get through." However, I know, humans cannot do anything right. :laugh:
Riiiight... don't count on achieving the unachievable. Having one access point means all the hackers will focus on that one point.
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Riiiight... don't count on achieving the unachievable. Having one access point means all the hackers will focus on that one point.
Proliferation of passwords. They'll never get me because I've got hundreds of them. A different one for every site. I have them all written down in a notebook here at my desk labeled: PASSWORD LOG BOOK -- KEEP OUT!!!
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Right. Not meaning it is unexpected like, duh...facebook is down why can't I log into facebook... :laugh: More like, uh... Facebook is down and I can't login to another site which has nothing to do with Facebook... except, oh wait... I use facebook OAuth.... Here's why it is unexpected... ... Uhh...facebook, even if you go down, I should be able to get to the OAuth piece so make it work!! However, I do believe this points out why you SHOULD NOT use facebook as your OAuth login provider. Because FB is a failure. Use Google or Twitter as your OAuth login provider instead. Ahh...
newton.saber wrote:
Uhh...facebook, even if you go down, I should be able to get to the OAuth piece so make it work!! However, I do believe this points out why you SHOULD NOT use facebook as your OAuth login provider.
That makes sense. :thumbsup:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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newton.saber wrote:
Uhh...facebook, even if you go down, I should be able to get to the OAuth piece so make it work!! However, I do believe this points out why you SHOULD NOT use facebook as your OAuth login provider.
That makes sense. :thumbsup:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Everyone offers Oauth too -- as if it is a valid choice: See the CP login: http://newtonsaber.com/images/codeproj/logincp.png[^] And STackOverflow: http://newtonsaber.com/images/codeproj/login2so.png[^] It's nefarious and perfidious!!!
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Facebook seems to be down for me right now. I've heard there've been recent problems. Now, consider this... If you use Facebook as your Social Login at other sites, you probably can't get into those either. Terrible!! Unintended consequences...
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Riiiight... don't count on achieving the unachievable. Having one access point means all the hackers will focus on that one point.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Having one access point
Even CP encourages such behavior. Everyone offers Oauth too -- as if it is a valid choice: See the CP login: http://newtonsaber.com/images/codeproj/logincp.png[^] And STackOverflow: http://newtonsaber.com/images/codeproj/login2so.png[^] It's insidious and perfidious, is it not!?
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Yes, it is a failed system and the owner/creators should pull it immediately. It must have 100% uptime or it is a failure. Imagine if the key to your car only worked 99.9% of the time! :laugh:
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Facebook seems to be down for me right now. I've heard there've been recent problems. Now, consider this... If you use Facebook as your Social Login at other sites, you probably can't get into those either. Terrible!! Unintended consequences...
newton.saber wrote:
If you use Facebook as your Social Login at other sites
Lost me there.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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newton.saber wrote:
If you use Facebook as your Social Login at other sites
Lost me there.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
You can sign on to CP via OAuth social login: See... (sorry I can't post the image in line) Edit fixed links http://newtonsaber.com/images/codeproj/logincp.png[^] And StackOverflow: http://newtonsaber.com/images/codeproj/login2so.png[^]
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I heard the outages mentioned on local radio on Friday. But now today I'm experiencing them. Wonder why there's not more about this out there? Maybe it's a localized problem?
Probably because most FarceBook users who are getting the problem are trying to discuss it the only way they know how...on Farcebook... :laugh:
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Facebook seems to be down for me right now. I've heard there've been recent problems. Now, consider this... If you use Facebook as your Social Login at other sites, you probably can't get into those either. Terrible!! Unintended consequences...
Frist reason why I do not usually use FB login. The second is that they can peruse through your posts and informations, I once published a strong and politically uncorrect opinion on a site which I visit only sporadically... and found the company I work for written beside my name. Now, of course it didn't happen anything - and I pulled off from "Public" my company's name, but that's bad privacy, other than a single point of access. A single virus or attack or backdoor on one of my devices connected to FB and I would be fried all over the world. Just a big nope. The only problem I have with many passwords is that many sites - Store them in a retrievable way - Do not accept not alfanumeric characters (so no %$&£#@) which of course I use - Are limited in lenght!! My Inusracne company and other sites limit the size of password TO 8 characters maximum.
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