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  • J Joe Woodbury

    As with every work morning, I was preoccupied thinking about what I needed to do today and started thinking about one the coding problems left over from Friday. As I walked toward my front door, I pulled out my car key and hit the unlock button. For a split second, I wondered why the front door didn't unlock.

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    • J Joe Woodbury

      As with every work morning, I was preoccupied thinking about what I needed to do today and started thinking about one the coding problems left over from Friday. As I walked toward my front door, I pulled out my car key and hit the unlock button. For a split second, I wondered why the front door didn't unlock.

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      Done it many a time (entering not exiting), why shouldn't I have a button for the front door to open it rather than having to juggle whatever I have in my arms to get the right key on a bunch into a small hole to get in?

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      • J Joe Woodbury

        As with every work morning, I was preoccupied thinking about what I needed to do today and started thinking about one the coding problems left over from Friday. As I walked toward my front door, I pulled out my car key and hit the unlock button. For a split second, I wondered why the front door didn't unlock.

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        Joe Woodbury wrote:

        As I walked toward my front door, I pulled out my car key and hit the unlock button. For a split second, I wondered why the front door didn't unlock.

        I've been wondering why we can't have simple keyless front door locks since I started seeing cars with remotes a number of years back. There're a few units on the market now, but they all appear to be smarthome/internet of pwn3d things products; not something I'd want controlling my front door. (You in the back muttering about the windows that are unlocked because they have a fan in them or are just open an inch or two for ventilation, STEU. That's not the point.)

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          Joe Woodbury wrote:

          As I walked toward my front door, I pulled out my car key and hit the unlock button. For a split second, I wondered why the front door didn't unlock.

          I've been wondering why we can't have simple keyless front door locks since I started seeing cars with remotes a number of years back. There're a few units on the market now, but they all appear to be smarthome/internet of pwn3d things products; not something I'd want controlling my front door. (You in the back muttering about the windows that are unlocked because they have a fan in them or are just open an inch or two for ventilation, STEU. That's not the point.)

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          Dan Neely wrote:

          I've been wondering why we can't have simple keyless front door locks since I started seeing cars with remotes a number of years back.

          Or using thumbprints for entry. Surely that's gotta be more secure than a key.

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            Dan Neely wrote:

            I've been wondering why we can't have simple keyless front door locks since I started seeing cars with remotes a number of years back.

            Or using thumbprints for entry. Surely that's gotta be more secure than a key.

            Jeremy Falcon

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            Go ahead and lend out your thumb to the neighbours to feed your cat while you are on vacation :)

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            • J Joe Woodbury

              As with every work morning, I was preoccupied thinking about what I needed to do today and started thinking about one the coding problems left over from Friday. As I walked toward my front door, I pulled out my car key and hit the unlock button. For a split second, I wondered why the front door didn't unlock.

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              While deep in thought flow charting something or other on a white board one day, I made several changes that I needed to revert back to the original. So I reached up to hit ctrl z...

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                Go ahead and lend out your thumb to the neighbours to feed your cat while you are on vacation :)

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                I would assume you could do it like the iPhone, and add more than one finger print the scanner would recognize. Could always add them to the system before you leave for vacation. I mean, even garage door openers have a vacation mode, it could too.

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  I've done that several times, but to enter, not exit, the house. The other thing I've been caught doing is waiting for a stop *sign* to turn green. ;) Marc

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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  The other thing I've been caught doing is waiting for a stop sign to turn green. ;)

                  I don't even want to admit the amount of times I will do this. Most of the time I sit there at a green left arrow when I'm turning left, just waiting for the entire light to turn green.

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    Dan Neely wrote:

                    I've been wondering why we can't have simple keyless front door locks since I started seeing cars with remotes a number of years back.

                    Or using thumbprints for entry. Surely that's gotta be more secure than a key.

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    Do you leave tracings of your key on everything you touch to give a thief a template to make one of their own? https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid[^]

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      Do you leave tracings of your key on everything you touch to give a thief a template to make one of their own? https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid[^]

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      Considering how easy it is to pick a regular lock, I don't see how this makes things worse.

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                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                        I would assume you could do it like the iPhone, and add more than one finger print the scanner would recognize. Could always add them to the system before you leave for vacation. I mean, even garage door openers have a vacation mode, it could too.

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                        Remains unpractical; let me expand the example - you wake up in the hospital, your cat/dog/crocodile needs to be fed. A key is a simple, cost-effective token, a physical secret.

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                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                          Considering how easy it is to pick a regular lock, I don't see how this makes things worse.

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                          ..a cylinder lock with extra bolt. --edit Also shows nice signs of breakage when force is applied; an electronic lock would not have that evidence.

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                          • J Joe Woodbury

                            As with every work morning, I was preoccupied thinking about what I needed to do today and started thinking about one the coding problems left over from Friday. As I walked toward my front door, I pulled out my car key and hit the unlock button. For a split second, I wondered why the front door didn't unlock.

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                            Welcome to middle age, Joe. :-D /ravi

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                              Remains unpractical; let me expand the example - you wake up in the hospital, your cat/dog/crocodile needs to be fed. A key is a simple, cost-effective token, a physical secret.

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                              You just like to argue man. Having it being physical in no way makes your situation easier. I got better things to do than argue.

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                                ..a cylinder lock with extra bolt. --edit Also shows nice signs of breakage when force is applied; an electronic lock would not have that evidence.

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                                Can still be picked with ease.

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                                  You just like to argue man. Having it being physical in no way makes your situation easier. I got better things to do than argue.

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                                  I tried to rationalize why we still prefer the known way, instead of mucking around with a lock that runs on beta-software :)

                                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                  Having it being physical in no way makes your situation easier.

                                  It does; it can easily be transferred and copied, among others. Kinda hard to beat at the price you pay for those.

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                                    Can still be picked with ease.

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                                    ..that explains why so many entries leave so much damage. It is too easy to pick the lock, so the thieves are looking for more challenging ways to enter :)

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                                      I tried to rationalize why we still prefer the known way, instead of mucking around with a lock that runs on beta-software :)

                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      Having it being physical in no way makes your situation easier.

                                      It does; it can easily be transferred and copied, among others. Kinda hard to beat at the price you pay for those.

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                                      Beta software is a strawman to argue a theoretical point. In no way did I suggest we let something like VB devs make the software to run it. That being said, if you wake up in the hospital with your leg broken and you don't have friends or family to help, nobody is going to go run and make a copy of a physical key for you either. And adding another user to the keypad actually takes less work than going to the store and making another copy. If you need something to touch in your pocket then you can always tickle the family jewels until tech replaces those too.

                                      Jeremy Falcon

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                                        Beta software is a strawman to argue a theoretical point. In no way did I suggest we let something like VB devs make the software to run it. That being said, if you wake up in the hospital with your leg broken and you don't have friends or family to help, nobody is going to go run and make a copy of a physical key for you either. And adding another user to the keypad actually takes less work than going to the store and making another copy. If you need something to touch in your pocket then you can always tickle the family jewels until tech replaces those too.

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                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        Beta software is a strawman to argue a theoretical point. In no way did I suggest we let something like VB devs make the software to run it.

                                        I'd never expected to say this, but that is unfair from the VB point of view. How would the insurance company react when you have a bug in your lock? Don't say that it will be flawless because it is not in VB :)

                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        That being said, if you wake up in the hospital with your leg broken and you don't have friends or family to help, nobody is going to go run and make a copy of a physical key for you either.

                                        You usually get multiple as soon as you start occupying a house - they're cheap. But still, in that case you could easily give the original token, and not demand them to make a copy. You could have made one before, and you're not gonna need it there anyway.

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                                        And adding another user to the keypad actually takes less work than going to the store and making another copy.

                                        ..I guess that makes sense if you plan to add a lot of users, yes.

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                                        If you need something to touch in your pocket then you can always tickle the family jewels until tech replaces those too.

                                        Let's hope they don't put a password on it, might lock me out of my account forever :laugh: My apologies if I upset you, but I tend to do that to people whenever I communicate. Still, it is a nice question; if it seems such an obvious thing, why has it not yet been introduced? Some people who tend to loose or forget their keys might be very happy with a serious alternative.

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                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          Beta software is a strawman to argue a theoretical point. In no way did I suggest we let something like VB devs make the software to run it.

                                          I'd never expected to say this, but that is unfair from the VB point of view. How would the insurance company react when you have a bug in your lock? Don't say that it will be flawless because it is not in VB :)

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          That being said, if you wake up in the hospital with your leg broken and you don't have friends or family to help, nobody is going to go run and make a copy of a physical key for you either.

                                          You usually get multiple as soon as you start occupying a house - they're cheap. But still, in that case you could easily give the original token, and not demand them to make a copy. You could have made one before, and you're not gonna need it there anyway.

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          And adding another user to the keypad actually takes less work than going to the store and making another copy.

                                          ..I guess that makes sense if you plan to add a lot of users, yes.

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          If you need something to touch in your pocket then you can always tickle the family jewels until tech replaces those too.

                                          Let's hope they don't put a password on it, might lock me out of my account forever :laugh: My apologies if I upset you, but I tend to do that to people whenever I communicate. Still, it is a nice question; if it seems such an obvious thing, why has it not yet been introduced? Some people who tend to loose or forget their keys might be very happy with a serious alternative.

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                                          Have fun.

                                          Jeremy Falcon

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