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  • L Lost User

    I have a family member who is at the start of an important new government project that will involve a Windows application. One of the consultants is advising them to base the new project on Delphi. I am strongly in favor of Visual Studio. I was wondering how experts on this forum feel about Delphi versus VS? Please let us know your preferences. Thanks!

    How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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    megaadam
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    VS advantage: Every
    Delphi advantage: none

    Technically a no-brainer. I fear that the problem is more in the domain of psychology. If the consultant is pushy, eloquent, and convincing then how do you battle? A few bullets in favour of VS, (that may have been mentioned) are: * Easier to hire talent * Superior debugger * It is more modern and future proof as a platform (but you must learn your homework to meet arguments on this) * Easier to deploy * etc etc Good luck

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    • A Amarnath S

      Looks like that consultant knows only three things: 1. Delphi. 2. Delphi. 3. Delphi.

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      Corporal Agarn
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      Avijnata, how long you been around here? You know it should be 0. 1. 2. :laugh: (Notice the joke icon)

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        Avijnata, how long you been around here? You know it should be 0. 1. 2. :laugh: (Notice the joke icon)

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        Amarnath S
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        :thumbsup: Consultants may not know how to reckon from zero. :-) Because, money is never reckoned from zero, isn't it? And consultants only (know how to) count money.

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          Avijnata, how long you been around here? You know it should be 0. 1. 2. :laugh: (Notice the joke icon)

          Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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          • L Lost User

            I have a family member who is at the start of an important new government project that will involve a Windows application. One of the consultants is advising them to base the new project on Delphi. I am strongly in favor of Visual Studio. I was wondering how experts on this forum feel about Delphi versus VS? Please let us know your preferences. Thanks!

            How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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            Lost User
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            Thank you to all who have responded to my question. Your advice is very valuable, as always! Thanks again! :)

            How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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            • S Slacker007

              I do not like anything by Embarcadero, and have always had more trouble with their products then with Microsoft, even when Borland owned the line before Embarcadero. I would use C# and Visual Studio, personally. Delphi, is a language. Visual Studio is an IDE, not a language.

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              James_Parsons
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              I thought Delphi was a platform and Object Pascal the language.

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              • J James_Parsons

                I thought Delphi was a platform and Object Pascal the language.

                i cri evry tiem

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                Colin Mullikin
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                Well, that's a tricky situation. Originally, Delphi (the platform) used Object Pascal, but then Borland began evolving the language and it became Delphi. There were some minor syntax deviations initially, but now there are all kinds of extensions (e.g. generics, anonymous methods) that exist in Delphi that aren't in Object Pascal. If you want more information or just want to get even more confused, head on over to the Object Pascal wikipedia page[^].

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                • L Lost User

                  Visual Studio is neither a language nor a framework, so why would you recommend it?

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                  Lost User
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                  OK, I meant to say a combination of C# and VS as opposed to Delphi.

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                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                    Yep that's the one although that was very much the later design, they tried a number of designs, none worked well. It was a competitor to access but was nothing like it. Competing with ms was painful.

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                    Joan M
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                    I worked with that software at one company that used it to store data and to perform programming tasks. It was very limited and the people in the IT department there ended up developing several things in C++ and putting them into a DLL to be used from SuperBase... X| At that time (20+ years ago) I was like: "does anyone else works with this?" but it seems that it was... :laugh:

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                    • J Joan M

                      I worked with that software at one company that used it to store data and to perform programming tasks. It was very limited and the people in the IT department there ended up developing several things in C++ and putting them into a DLL to be used from SuperBase... X| At that time (20+ years ago) I was like: "does anyone else works with this?" but it seems that it was... :laugh:

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                      Mycroft Holmes
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                      It never did reach critical mass, then it got sold and sold and eventually was so marginalised I think it disappeared. I made a comfortable living in the 90s building solutions using it and was sad to see it die, especially as the alternative was access. It was nice being able to turn up with 2 360k disks and have your database and solution installed. I used Delphi for a while and eventually got into the dress vb6.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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