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  • L Lost User

    Yes, but no way will I dare drink unpasteurized milk! I will leave to the bright politicians who legalized raw milk. And I wish them the best of luck. :-D

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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    Nish Nishant
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    Why would anyone want to legalize it? What's the driving reason behind it, do you know?

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      Why would anyone want to legalize it? What's the driving reason behind it, do you know?

      Regards, Nish


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      What's the driving reason behind it

      Who knows? Probably a bunch of hippies?

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        Quote:

        What's the driving reason behind it

        Who knows? Probably a bunch of hippies?

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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        :laugh:

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          After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick | Mediaite[^]

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          Remember, this is West Virgina, not to be confused with Virginia. Consider this quote (extracted from the text) by one of their brilliant lawmakers: "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .” That should explain everything.

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • L Lost User

            Quote:

            What's the driving reason behind it

            Who knows? Probably a bunch of hippies?

            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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            W Balboos GHB
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            Cornelius Henning wrote:

            Probably a bunch of hippies?

            Actually, having lived in WV, I assure you that those insisting on this were about as unlike hippies as one could imagine. WV is primarily composed of good solid conservative bigots - like you'd find in most of the low population states (and Texass). The reason the northern coastal states have large population densities is people trying to get away from the inbred masses and they ran out of running room.


            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              Remember, this is West Virgina, not to be confused with Virginia. Consider this quote (extracted from the text) by one of their brilliant lawmakers: "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .” That should explain everything.

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              That should explain everything

              That is just dumb! Even for a politician. Even if he is from the mountains in the West!

              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              • W W Balboos GHB

                Cornelius Henning wrote:

                Probably a bunch of hippies?

                Actually, having lived in WV, I assure you that those insisting on this were about as unlike hippies as one could imagine. WV is primarily composed of good solid conservative bigots - like you'd find in most of the low population states (and Texass). The reason the northern coastal states have large population densities is people trying to get away from the inbred masses and they ran out of running room.


                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                good solid conservative bigots

                Different values from hippies, but same IQ range. :-D

                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick | Mediaite[^]

                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  I used to drink raw milk, when I was a child...but if someone not used to it, it is very heavy (full of fat), so I can imagine that...

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                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                    I used to drink raw milk, when I was a child...but if someone not used to it, it is very heavy (full of fat), so I can imagine that...

                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                    I'm afraid you run risks other than just full bodied milk, if you drink it raw. Typhoid Mary infected more than 50 people with typhus (three died) through raw milk, before pasteurization became common practice. Milk is an ideal carrier for various pathogens.

                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      I used to drink raw milk, when I was a child...but if someone not used to it, it is very heavy (full of fat), so I can imagine that...

                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                      As a child in the early 1960s I lived in a hostel where we were served raw milk. In the rural parts where we were, pasteurization was still not common. Yes, I survived, but we seemed to develop digestive tract infections more commonly than kids today. Why run the risk of some serious tummy ailments?

                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                      • L Lost User

                        As a child in the early 1960s I lived in a hostel where we were served raw milk. In the rural parts where we were, pasteurization was still not common. Yes, I survived, but we seemed to develop digestive tract infections more commonly than kids today. Why run the risk of some serious tummy ailments?

                        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                        I didn't say that I would do it today or to my kids, but than, that was the only milk we had (lived in a farm outside of everything)...I can't remember people got ill or died of it, but I was only a kid...

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          I didn't say that I would do it today or to my kids, but than, that was the only milk we had (lived in a farm outside of everything)...I can't remember people got ill or died of it, but I was only a kid...

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          Yes, I believe we are in agreement. :)

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                          • L Lost User

                            As a child in the early 1960s I lived in a hostel where we were served raw milk. In the rural parts where we were, pasteurization was still not common. Yes, I survived, but we seemed to develop digestive tract infections more commonly than kids today. Why run the risk of some serious tummy ailments?

                            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            Cornelius Henning wrote:

                            1960s

                            That's the key difference. Farmers were not pumping their cows full of steroids and hormones like they do today. However, even today, there are lot of small farms around where I live that sell raw milk. It's no big deal. But these farmers don't shoot their cows up. :^)

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                              Cornelius Henning wrote:

                              1960s

                              That's the key difference. Farmers were not pumping their cows full of steroids and hormones like they do today. However, even today, there are lot of small farms around where I live that sell raw milk. It's no big deal. But these farmers don't shoot their cows up. :^)

                              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                              Lost User
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                              I'm afraid you are going off-topic. The issue is whether you should pasteurize milk to get rid of pathogens, like undesirable bacteria. Hormones and antibiotics are a separate issue that has nothing to do with pasteurization.

                              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                I'm afraid you are going off-topic. The issue is whether you should pasteurize milk to get rid of pathogens, like undesirable bacteria. Hormones and antibiotics are a separate issue that has nothing to do with pasteurization.

                                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                ZurdoDev
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                                Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                I'm afraid you are going off-topic.

                                Not at all.

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                                to expose (a food, as milk, cheese, yogurt, beer, or wine) to an elevated temperature for a period of time sufficient to destroy certain microorganisms, as those that can produce disease or cause spoilage or undesirable fermentation of food, without radically altering taste or quality.

                                Hormones and steroids add to those "certain microorganisms, that can produce disease."

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  Remember, this is West Virgina, not to be confused with Virginia. Consider this quote (extracted from the text) by one of their brilliant lawmakers: "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .” That should explain everything.

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                  "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .”

                                  Wow. That's the English-language equivalent of javascript code.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                    I'm afraid you are going off-topic.

                                    Not at all.

                                    Quote:

                                    to expose (a food, as milk, cheese, yogurt, beer, or wine) to an elevated temperature for a period of time sufficient to destroy certain microorganisms, as those that can produce disease or cause spoilage or undesirable fermentation of food, without radically altering taste or quality.

                                    Hormones and steroids add to those "certain microorganisms, that can produce disease."

                                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Let's agree to differ: You can drink your milk raw, and I will only take pasteurized milk, and we both will be happy. :)

                                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      Let's agree to differ: You can drink your milk raw, and I will only take pasteurized milk, and we both will be happy. :)

                                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                      ZurdoDev
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                                      I don't think they do it at all in Mexico. I remember the milk tasting very weird and they could leave it unrefrigerated for a long time. Yes, I know they have stomach problems but that is more from the water. :-\

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                                      • N Nish Nishant

                                        Why would anyone want to legalize it? What's the driving reason behind it, do you know?

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        It allows farmers to sell direct to customers at the barn door as it were rather than to milk packagers/processors and thus get the full value. The truth is, of course, that it's been going on legally or not so it's just one less hassle for the authorities who policed it.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick | Mediaite[^]

                                          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                          Mycroft Holmes
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                                          Haha, grew up on a dairy farm for a few year, me and the cats got warm raw milk every morning. The old man used to hand milk and the cats would line up for a shot direct from the teat, funniest cat thing you have ever seen, he was not very accurate, on purpose!

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