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Lawmakers who legalized raw milk, got really sick drinking it!

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  • L Lost User

    As a child in the early 1960s I lived in a hostel where we were served raw milk. In the rural parts where we were, pasteurization was still not common. Yes, I survived, but we seemed to develop digestive tract infections more commonly than kids today. Why run the risk of some serious tummy ailments?

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    I didn't say that I would do it today or to my kids, but than, that was the only milk we had (lived in a farm outside of everything)...I can't remember people got ill or died of it, but I was only a kid...

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      I didn't say that I would do it today or to my kids, but than, that was the only milk we had (lived in a farm outside of everything)...I can't remember people got ill or died of it, but I was only a kid...

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      Yes, I believe we are in agreement. :)

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      • L Lost User

        As a child in the early 1960s I lived in a hostel where we were served raw milk. In the rural parts where we were, pasteurization was still not common. Yes, I survived, but we seemed to develop digestive tract infections more commonly than kids today. Why run the risk of some serious tummy ailments?

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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        ZurdoDev
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        Cornelius Henning wrote:

        1960s

        That's the key difference. Farmers were not pumping their cows full of steroids and hormones like they do today. However, even today, there are lot of small farms around where I live that sell raw milk. It's no big deal. But these farmers don't shoot their cows up. :^)

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          Cornelius Henning wrote:

          1960s

          That's the key difference. Farmers were not pumping their cows full of steroids and hormones like they do today. However, even today, there are lot of small farms around where I live that sell raw milk. It's no big deal. But these farmers don't shoot their cows up. :^)

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          I'm afraid you are going off-topic. The issue is whether you should pasteurize milk to get rid of pathogens, like undesirable bacteria. Hormones and antibiotics are a separate issue that has nothing to do with pasteurization.

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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            I'm afraid you are going off-topic. The issue is whether you should pasteurize milk to get rid of pathogens, like undesirable bacteria. Hormones and antibiotics are a separate issue that has nothing to do with pasteurization.

            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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            Cornelius Henning wrote:

            I'm afraid you are going off-topic.

            Not at all.

            Quote:

            to expose (a food, as milk, cheese, yogurt, beer, or wine) to an elevated temperature for a period of time sufficient to destroy certain microorganisms, as those that can produce disease or cause spoilage or undesirable fermentation of food, without radically altering taste or quality.

            Hormones and steroids add to those "certain microorganisms, that can produce disease."

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            • W W Balboos GHB

              Remember, this is West Virgina, not to be confused with Virginia. Consider this quote (extracted from the text) by one of their brilliant lawmakers: "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .” That should explain everything.

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              W∴ Balboos wrote:

              "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .”

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                Cornelius Henning wrote:

                I'm afraid you are going off-topic.

                Not at all.

                Quote:

                to expose (a food, as milk, cheese, yogurt, beer, or wine) to an elevated temperature for a period of time sufficient to destroy certain microorganisms, as those that can produce disease or cause spoilage or undesirable fermentation of food, without radically altering taste or quality.

                Hormones and steroids add to those "certain microorganisms, that can produce disease."

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Let's agree to differ: You can drink your milk raw, and I will only take pasteurized milk, and we both will be happy. :)

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                • L Lost User

                  Let's agree to differ: You can drink your milk raw, and I will only take pasteurized milk, and we both will be happy. :)

                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  I don't think they do it at all in Mexico. I remember the milk tasting very weird and they could leave it unrefrigerated for a long time. Yes, I know they have stomach problems but that is more from the water. :-\

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Why would anyone want to legalize it? What's the driving reason behind it, do you know?

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                    It allows farmers to sell direct to customers at the barn door as it were rather than to milk packagers/processors and thus get the full value. The truth is, of course, that it's been going on legally or not so it's just one less hassle for the authorities who policed it.

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                      After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick | Mediaite[^]

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                      Haha, grew up on a dairy farm for a few year, me and the cats got warm raw milk every morning. The old man used to hand milk and the cats would line up for a shot direct from the teat, funniest cat thing you have ever seen, he was not very accurate, on purpose!

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                        It allows farmers to sell direct to customers at the barn door as it were rather than to milk packagers/processors and thus get the full value. The truth is, of course, that it's been going on legally or not so it's just one less hassle for the authorities who policed it.

                        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Ah thanks.

                        Regards, Nish


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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          Why would anyone want to legalize it? What's the driving reason behind it, do you know?

                          Regards, Nish


                          Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                          Jan Steyn
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                          Its been said that it causes less allergies and more of the actual nutritional value stays in. Buying from a reputable farmer with a healthy herd would probably not be dangerous to your health. I grew up on a farm and only had raw milk as a child - never got sick from it.

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