Will US ever learn?

Lost User

The Kurds must be doing well, we don't hear about them in the news unless it involves SH ..... Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

Michael A Barnhart

Christian Graus wrote: and I seem to recall the US never gave Stalin any material aid either, because of misgivings about him. Well if you insist on technicalities the US may not have given anything to Stalin. How ever since they have never repaid the US like the UK (is almost done doing) I consider the 11 billion in 1945 dollars a pretty big gift. Lend Lease to Russia[^] and Joseph Stalin never revealed to his own people the full contributions of Lend-Lease to their country's survival, but he referred to the program at the 1945 Yalta Conference saying, "Lend-Lease is one of Franklin Roosevelt's most remarkable and vital achievements in the formation of the anti-Hitler alliance." [^] ""

peterchen

Um... maybe, just maybe, you bought deranged, fanatical freaks in the very beginning? Wasn't there once a saying about Saddam by an US representative "He's a bastard, but he's our bastard!"? Sure they are responsible for what they do. But changing "allies" like underwear should be changed, nurturing and protecting a known asshole as long as he assholes around for you, is, according to my education, the peak of medieval diplomacy. There are quite some known irrational clowns among the Kurds. Which is a pity, as they're, as a people, in a total mess, and the clowns should not be taken for the whole bunch, but some of them will now be promoted. I Hate to say that, but do U.S. foreign affair ministers all suffer from bad breath? There must be a reason their former allies tend to turn against them. (Hint: Freshminst are cheaper than Cruise Missiles!)

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Lost User

When Britain says that we will create two countries, and every small petty kingdom that was there when Britain came in have the right to join either India or Pakistan; and we will not be here to oversee the chaos, it is pretty much the worst it can go. Partition should not even be talked about by the West. They have a very bad track record in this thing. Let Iraqis divide it, if they want to. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

Bedri Egrilmez

Enmity between Talabani and Barzani (Did you know that Talabani aligned with SH against Barzani's father Mullah Mustafa in the 80s.). Theirs is a temporary alliance. Afganistan had the same situation after Russian withdrawal. with their own private armies, Talabani and Barzani's parties resemble more medieval clans than the parties that you are accustomed to. Unlike what you are told, neither Shiites nor Kurds are in a hurry to break away from the SH regime. If one those countries will really be established, they will be devoid of their public's support. Ignorance of the fact that millions of Turkomans and Arabs also live in the area. Oh, and let us not forget Norhern Iraq is also home to Islamic El-Ansar militants and thousands of PKK guerillas. ...leads me to think that a future Kurdistan will not remotely resemble France. US/UK's master plan on the region seems to be replacing a Middle-East dictatorship with smaller, more violent ones.