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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Live and let live, for f***'s sake. If your way is the only way, it's the wrong way.
Irony. The ISIS comparison is not called for. I strongly suspect that their speeches have just a touch more "we haven't hit our beheading quota for the week" or "you guys have been really enthusiastic about stoning educated women, gays, and Christians since we started child-bride Wednesdays, keep it up!"
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
They ardently believe in their way of life, the same as anyone who is even mildly fanatical. Fanaticism of any kind is a bad thing, because one of its main effects is to give people the errant belief that they are better than people who don't share their beliefs -- and saying "Our fanatics are better than Your fanatics!" is just plain dumb. I have yet to see a belief system that convinces me that it is what we were put on this Earth for -- and capitalism comes Incredibly low on the score chart. People exist to dedicate their lives to the pursuit of money? I don't think so.
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LOL. Human is the ONLY thing I get right :-) Thank You!
Kirk 10389821 wrote:
Human is the ONLY thing I get right
Well, at least one of us does. I'm still working on it.
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Unfortunately, that's exactly the kind of speech that ISIS leaders make to their people. USA : ISIS -- peas in a pod. Live and let live, for f***'s sake. If your way is the only way, it's the wrong way. Oh, and don't take it personally when people bitch about things. That's what people do.
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Trump/Trump followers and ISIS share similarities in that they both use honor/shame language, and both are trying to "reclaim" honor by removing that of their opponents. But they have very different views about honor and (fortunately) use different means of reclaiming that honor.
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They ardently believe in their way of life, the same as anyone who is even mildly fanatical. Fanaticism of any kind is a bad thing, because one of its main effects is to give people the errant belief that they are better than people who don't share their beliefs -- and saying "Our fanatics are better than Your fanatics!" is just plain dumb. I have yet to see a belief system that convinces me that it is what we were put on this Earth for -- and capitalism comes Incredibly low on the score chart. People exist to dedicate their lives to the pursuit of money? I don't think so.
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Yeah, I see... I was giving an EXAMPLE or set of examples... That was NOT intended to be LITERALLY the list of things. let me summarize differently my intention: Wherever you are at in life, choose what you want to do, and do it. Preferably within in the law, and hopefully with a positive impact on where you live. Is that "Less ISIS" dictation of living according to my values? And if not. PLEASE give me an example of a way to reach those who are far less fortunate TODAY. What message do you send? How do you word it? And please. Try not to let YOUR values influence the message.
We need to define a lot of terms, here.
Kirk 10389821 wrote:
Preferably within in the law
Which? Sharia law? It comprises laws made by people for people to follow. Some of it's dumb, some of it's cruel, some of it's unenforceable, some of it's abused, and some of it's singularly good. Show me the laws of any country that you can't say exactly the same things about. Whose laws are right? Buggered if I know.
Kirk 10389821 wrote:
less fortunate
By "less fortunate", do you mean broke? That's not my definition. I've been broke, but it never stopped me from being happy with my family and friends, which is where the bulk of happiness lies. Contrarily, I'm loaded, and I miss those days when I could feel truly happy, unencumbered with responsibilities and things that take up all my time. But now I'm "fortunate". Then, I was just fortunate. Not everyone wants to dedicate their entire life to increasing their mortal wealth, which, in the end, gives them less than a smile from a child. Sure, several people (but certainly not everyone) could become stinking rich, by dedicating their lives to doing only that, but one person climbing to the top has to do so by pushing countless others down (ask Trump), so for every one who goes up, a lot are kicked back to the bottom of the heap. And, of course, the climb is made ever harder, if more are people trying to ascend the same, small slope, so the bottom of the slope rises, and the divide between those who are wealthy and those who are not gets ever wider, and harder to breach. History and common sense can't be trumped by monopolar beliefs, no matter how enthusiastic they are.
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Trump/Trump followers and ISIS share similarities in that they both use honor/shame language, and both are trying to "reclaim" honor by removing that of their opponents. But they have very different views about honor and (fortunately) use different means of reclaiming that honor.
Kaladin wrote:
they .... use different means of reclaiming that honor
True. ISIS uses sharpened steel to remove people they don't want. Trump uses only a finger.
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The poor always blame the rich for their problems.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
The poor rich always blame the rich poor for their problems.
Life's funny, that way. Actually, it's not funny; it's just human. Let's go with "Everyone blames someone else for their problems". So, because I don't wish to appear to be too inhuman, I'm laying the blame for all my problems at your feet!
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And God Bless America! :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig:
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
God Bless America!
um, church + state is unconstitutional.
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Trump/Trump followers and ISIS share similarities in that they both use honor/shame language, and both are trying to "reclaim" honor by removing that of their opponents. But they have very different views about honor and (fortunately) use different means of reclaiming that honor.
Kaladin wrote:
Trump/Trump followers and ISIS share similarities in that they both use honor/shame language
You're giving Liberals a free pass on this same behavior? Do the phrases "misogynistic", "xenophobic", "homophobic", "basket full of deplorables", "...want old people to eat cat food so they can buy their medicines", "...throw old people off the cliff" ring any bells? Oh no, that's not shaming or ad hominem at all. :doh:
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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Kaladin wrote:
Trump/Trump followers and ISIS share similarities in that they both use honor/shame language
You're giving Liberals a free pass on this same behavior? Do the phrases "misogynistic", "xenophobic", "homophobic", "basket full of deplorables", "...want old people to eat cat food so they can buy their medicines", "...throw old people off the cliff" ring any bells? Oh no, that's not shaming or ad hominem at all. :doh:
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
People made a lot of money out of planning what the principles should say, and when it should be said. Don't blame the monkeys for dancing to the organ-grinders' tunes.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
People exist to dedicate their lives to the pursuit of money?
That is not what capitalism is. :doh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
How would you know what capitalism is? You claim to be a Christian, so it's against your religion.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
God Bless America!
um, church + state is unconstitutional.
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I'm not in the mood to argue. Maybe you are, but I find that life is more enjoyable when you don't always argue with people who find too much joy in arguing and no joy in nothing else. Further more, everyone knows the church plus state thing has more to do with forced practices. Nobody is forcing you to say that. We also have freedom of speech. Which means I can say it. And furthermore, anyone who is any way in any form educated in more modern studies regarding spirituality know that God can mean different things to different people, which means even the non-religious (traditionally speaking) can use it. My point is, dude... don't always argue.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
The poor rich always blame the rich poor for their problems.
Life's funny, that way. Actually, it's not funny; it's just human. Let's go with "Everyone blames someone else for their problems". So, because I don't wish to appear to be too inhuman, I'm laying the blame for all my problems at your feet!
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Let's go with "Everyone blames someone else for their problems".
Well sure, 'tis human nature. What I find sad is that people don't realize it. Then again, the reason I'm not married is because women are crazy (joking).
Jeremy Falcon
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Let's go with "Everyone blames someone else for their problems".
Well sure, 'tis human nature. What I find sad is that people don't realize it. Then again, the reason I'm not married is because women are crazy (joking).
Jeremy Falcon
Now That I can get behind! What is the cause of 99% of mens' problems? The answer is only slightly bleeding obvious!
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This is a collaboration website is it not? With that said, I understand the rules... but they're also just changing them for one day on a whim, why not be consistent?
That's the understanding I share with you. I guess because one sets the rules in one's own abode. I dont recall a pledge of consistency being a part of the contract I entered into a decade ago. I understand what you're getting at, really I think I do. I also can't help but think that the saying about the tail not wagging the dog to be somehow pertinent. Anyhow, hope I haven't and sorry if I've offended you or behaved poorly :beer:
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I'm not in the mood to argue. Maybe you are, but I find that life is more enjoyable when you don't always argue with people who find too much joy in arguing and no joy in nothing else. Further more, everyone knows the church plus state thing has more to do with forced practices. Nobody is forcing you to say that. We also have freedom of speech. Which means I can say it. And furthermore, anyone who is any way in any form educated in more modern studies regarding spirituality know that God can mean different things to different people, which means even the non-religious (traditionally speaking) can use it. My point is, dude... don't always argue.
Jeremy Falcon
Who's arguing? I'm just sticking firecrackers in holes, because it's more fun (and Way more sensible) than taking any of this seriously. I.e. this is yet another transient event that we (especially those of us who aren't USAian) won't even think about in a few years' time, so just have fun with it. Life is full of such dramatically important events, which, when you stop thinking emotionally and/or irrationally, you realise aren't really dramatic or important to you, after all. Yet another game of men chasing balls around a field was won by some team? Pfft. Yet another lying jerk won an election between lying jerks? Meh. Firefly was cancelled? Hey, now, wai... Just hold on a minute!
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Who's arguing? I'm just sticking firecrackers in holes, because it's more fun (and Way more sensible) than taking any of this seriously. I.e. this is yet another transient event that we (especially those of us who aren't USAian) won't even think about in a few years' time, so just have fun with it. Life is full of such dramatically important events, which, when you stop thinking emotionally and/or irrationally, you realise aren't really dramatic or important to you, after all. Yet another game of men chasing balls around a field was won by some team? Pfft. Yet another lying jerk won an election between lying jerks? Meh. Firefly was cancelled? Hey, now, wai... Just hold on a minute!
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Fair enough, I'm just over sensitive right now. My man boobs are almost lactating from dealing with all this political crap.
Jeremy Falcon
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That's the understanding I share with you. I guess because one sets the rules in one's own abode. I dont recall a pledge of consistency being a part of the contract I entered into a decade ago. I understand what you're getting at, really I think I do. I also can't help but think that the saying about the tail not wagging the dog to be somehow pertinent. Anyhow, hope I haven't and sorry if I've offended you or behaved poorly :beer:
Nah, cheers :beer:
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Fair enough, I'm just over sensitive right now. My man boobs are almost lactating from dealing with all this political crap.
Jeremy Falcon
