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  • P peterchen

    A few cases with travellers coming back from Asia, other than that, good information (even though the w*r makes the headlines), but "keeping the ball low", i.e. it isn't perceived as a threat (for here), but a serious issue for asia. (However, statements like "Malaria is much more of a problem" is reasonable from our POV, but not very helpful for the people over there, I think) Just browsed over a report about the global internetted research to find a cure. good luck to you. :rose:


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    The mortaility rate is about 4% - not very high for flu given that we are dealing with people with preexisting health problems or the elderly. The transmisibility is very low - basically you need to be sneezed upon to catch it. It doesn't travel through air conditioning or by touch. More people died in HK by commiting suicide last week than died of SARS. As it says on the back of the hitchikers guide to the galaxy: Don't panic '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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      The mortaility rate is about 4% - not very high for flu given that we are dealing with people with preexisting health problems or the elderly. The transmisibility is very low - basically you need to be sneezed upon to catch it. It doesn't travel through air conditioning or by touch. More people died in HK by commiting suicide last week than died of SARS. As it says on the back of the hitchikers guide to the galaxy: Don't panic '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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      Merrion wrote: Don't panic Yup, basically ;) However, What gives SARS the focus is they die quasi-randomly. No chance to "affect" it (I consider Albert Camus' "Caligula" an interesting teaching material: death is easier if you know when and why)


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        Merrion wrote: Don't panic Yup, basically ;) However, What gives SARS the focus is they die quasi-randomly. No chance to "affect" it (I consider Albert Camus' "Caligula" an interesting teaching material: death is easier if you know when and why)


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        • W Weiye Chen

          Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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          Weiye Chen wrote: How's your situation in your country? South Africa has had SARS for years. Many millions have been hunted down and forced to pay by SARS. A few years ago SARS mutated from a fumbling, corrupt and incompetent organisation into a leaner and more lethal strain. Now nobody is safe, not even the very rich. People have been put in jail because of SARS. Consultants have offered me ways of getting around SARS, but I have refused, counting myself as a good South African and not one to cheat the system. I will pay my due and live with it. In fact without SARS, South Africa would crumble. Yes, the South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch. :rolleyes: My apologies. Was not meant to offend. Just that South Africa has been chuckling quitely to itself everytime the newspaper or TV runs a headline like "SARS wreaks havoc in Hong Kong." or "Londoners hide from SARS." As for the virus, there was a scare here a few days ago but other doctors have labelled it as paranoia. I hope HK can beat it and it does not spread further.

          Paul Watson
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          Cape Town, South Africa

          Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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            Weiye Chen wrote: How's your situation in your country? South Africa has had SARS for years. Many millions have been hunted down and forced to pay by SARS. A few years ago SARS mutated from a fumbling, corrupt and incompetent organisation into a leaner and more lethal strain. Now nobody is safe, not even the very rich. People have been put in jail because of SARS. Consultants have offered me ways of getting around SARS, but I have refused, counting myself as a good South African and not one to cheat the system. I will pay my due and live with it. In fact without SARS, South Africa would crumble. Yes, the South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch. :rolleyes: My apologies. Was not meant to offend. Just that South Africa has been chuckling quitely to itself everytime the newspaper or TV runs a headline like "SARS wreaks havoc in Hong Kong." or "Londoners hide from SARS." As for the virus, there was a scare here a few days ago but other doctors have labelled it as paranoia. I hope HK can beat it and it does not spread further.

            Paul Watson
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            Cape Town, South Africa

            Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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            Paul Watson wrote: Yes, the South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch. Darn! You beat me to it. Paul Watson wrote: South Africa has been chuckling quitely to itself :) Me too

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              Weiye Chen wrote: How's your situation in your country? South Africa has had SARS for years. Many millions have been hunted down and forced to pay by SARS. A few years ago SARS mutated from a fumbling, corrupt and incompetent organisation into a leaner and more lethal strain. Now nobody is safe, not even the very rich. People have been put in jail because of SARS. Consultants have offered me ways of getting around SARS, but I have refused, counting myself as a good South African and not one to cheat the system. I will pay my due and live with it. In fact without SARS, South Africa would crumble. Yes, the South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch. :rolleyes: My apologies. Was not meant to offend. Just that South Africa has been chuckling quitely to itself everytime the newspaper or TV runs a headline like "SARS wreaks havoc in Hong Kong." or "Londoners hide from SARS." As for the virus, there was a scare here a few days ago but other doctors have labelled it as paranoia. I hope HK can beat it and it does not spread further.

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
              Cape Town, South Africa

              Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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              Paul Watson wrote: South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch Beat me to it :laugh: (SARS=...)

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              • P peterchen

                Jonny Newman wrote: :jig: "Thats Paranoia....." :jig: you seem to coonsider this a very enjoyable state of mind.. :~


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                It was a song I remember someone singing. But there are not musical note emoticons. Chris, any chance? MSN has them....


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                • D Davy Mitchell

                  Put it into perspective - TB kills millions every year. Davy Blog for Software Testing, Bugs, Quality, Security and Stability - www.latedecember.com
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                  peterchen
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                  I perfectly know that.. However, death, and "masking out mortality" is a highly subjective thing - so an objective assessment is helpful, but no full solution. OT: I like your blog!


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                  • M Megan Forbes

                    I've heard on the news that there are couple of people in the UK who have contracted it. Must be bad to be in Hong Kong though. One guy I work with is sure he's going to get it, and even thought he had a temperature yesterday :laugh: Shame... sad....


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                    gregs
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                    I getting annoyed because I have the flu, and absolutely everyone every makes the joke that I must have SARS:( Also, because my immune system is a bit screwed up, they all say that if anyone was going to get it, it would be me X|

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                    • P peterchen

                      I perfectly know that.. However, death, and "masking out mortality" is a highly subjective thing - so an objective assessment is helpful, but no full solution. OT: I like your blog!


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                      True, true... I think the fact it is new makes it more dangerous... :~ Glad you like the LD blog :-) Davy Blog for Software Testing, Bugs, Quality, Security and Stability - www.latedecember.com
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                      • W Weiye Chen

                        Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                        Yet again an example of the media making something small into a sensational issue and instilling panic in people. A little perspective please. For example, in the US alone, there are 400,000 smoking related deaths a year. Source: http://www.streetlaw.org/youthact/tobacco/responsible.html[^] Where's the media sensationalism? Where's the public panic? How many millions of Chinese die each year from smoking related deaths? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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                          Paul Watson wrote: South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch Beat me to it :laugh: (SARS=...)

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                          I do believe I raised the quirky coincidence here more than a week ago. But nobody listens to me :~ So, anyone else here that stayed up the whole night working? I'm getting a second wind after about 14 Vanilla Cokes

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                            I do believe I raised the quirky coincidence here more than a week ago. But nobody listens to me :~ So, anyone else here that stayed up the whole night working? I'm getting a second wind after about 14 Vanilla Cokes

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                            ProffK wrote: So, anyone else here that stayed up the whole night working? Does your head still feel attached to your body?

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                            • W Weiye Chen

                              Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                              Brian Delahunty
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                              No reported cases of it over here yet... Hopefully there won't be. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                Weiye Chen wrote: How's your situation in your country? South Africa has had SARS for years. Many millions have been hunted down and forced to pay by SARS. A few years ago SARS mutated from a fumbling, corrupt and incompetent organisation into a leaner and more lethal strain. Now nobody is safe, not even the very rich. People have been put in jail because of SARS. Consultants have offered me ways of getting around SARS, but I have refused, counting myself as a good South African and not one to cheat the system. I will pay my due and live with it. In fact without SARS, South Africa would crumble. Yes, the South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch. :rolleyes: My apologies. Was not meant to offend. Just that South Africa has been chuckling quitely to itself everytime the newspaper or TV runs a headline like "SARS wreaks havoc in Hong Kong." or "Londoners hide from SARS." As for the virus, there was a scare here a few days ago but other doctors have labelled it as paranoia. I hope HK can beat it and it does not spread further.

                                Paul Watson
                                Bluegrass
                                Cape Town, South Africa

                                Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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                                The goal: Eradication of SARS must look good then :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                  It was a song I remember someone singing. But there are not musical note emoticons. Chris, any chance? MSN has them....


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                                  - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
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                                  "Acute, Schizophrenic Paranoid Blues" by the Kinks, perhaps?:-D "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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                                    Yet again an example of the media making something small into a sensational issue and instilling panic in people. A little perspective please. For example, in the US alone, there are 400,000 smoking related deaths a year. Source: http://www.streetlaw.org/youthact/tobacco/responsible.html[^] Where's the media sensationalism? Where's the public panic? How many millions of Chinese die each year from smoking related deaths? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                                    Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
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                                    Only 3.5% of those that contracted SARS have died. That's about the same as influensa.

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                                    • W Weiye Chen

                                      Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                                      I am from the southern tip of India. Here people don't go on holidays, but we have lots of tourists coming in [being God's own country]. So there is a risk. But no cases have been reported so far. Smitha It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. -- Andre Gide

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                                        I am from the southern tip of India. Here people don't go on holidays, but we have lots of tourists coming in [being God's own country]. So there is a risk. But no cases have been reported so far. Smitha It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. -- Andre Gide

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                                        Prabhakar
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                                        Hey, looks like the feds are covering up cases here in the US, havent heard of any infections. Such a shame that a vaccine is miles away..! :mad: Prabhakar.


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                                        • W Weiye Chen

                                          Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          Weiye Chen wrote: How's your situation in your country? A former colleague of mine is here in CA with me now. He will be returning to India in one or two months. Right now his return ticket has been booked through Singapore/Seol and he is very tense about SARS. He's been trying hard to try and reschedule it through London. Nish


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