This stupid virus is messing up everybody's life...
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Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
Yet again an example of the media making something small into a sensational issue and instilling panic in people. A little perspective please. For example, in the US alone, there are 400,000 smoking related deaths a year. Source: http://www.streetlaw.org/youthact/tobacco/responsible.html[^] Where's the media sensationalism? Where's the public panic? How many millions of Chinese die each year from smoking related deaths? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Paul Watson wrote: South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch Beat me to it :laugh: (SARS=...)
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I do believe I raised the quirky coincidence here more than a week ago. But nobody listens to me :~ So, anyone else here that stayed up the whole night working? I'm getting a second wind after about 14 Vanilla Cokes
ProffK wrote: So, anyone else here that stayed up the whole night working? Does your head still feel attached to your body?
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Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
No reported cases of it over here yet... Hopefully there won't be. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Weiye Chen wrote: How's your situation in your country? South Africa has had SARS for years. Many millions have been hunted down and forced to pay by SARS. A few years ago SARS mutated from a fumbling, corrupt and incompetent organisation into a leaner and more lethal strain. Now nobody is safe, not even the very rich. People have been put in jail because of SARS. Consultants have offered me ways of getting around SARS, but I have refused, counting myself as a good South African and not one to cheat the system. I will pay my due and live with it. In fact without SARS, South Africa would crumble. Yes, the South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch. :rolleyes: My apologies. Was not meant to offend. Just that South Africa has been chuckling quitely to itself everytime the newspaper or TV runs a headline like "SARS wreaks havoc in Hong Kong." or "Londoners hide from SARS." As for the virus, there was a scare here a few days ago but other doctors have labelled it as paranoia. I hope HK can beat it and it does not spread further.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
The goal: Eradication of SARS must look good then :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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It was a song I remember someone singing. But there are not musical note emoticons. Chris, any chance? MSN has them....
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Yet again an example of the media making something small into a sensational issue and instilling panic in people. A little perspective please. For example, in the US alone, there are 400,000 smoking related deaths a year. Source: http://www.streetlaw.org/youthact/tobacco/responsible.html[^] Where's the media sensationalism? Where's the public panic? How many millions of Chinese die each year from smoking related deaths? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files" -
Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
I am from the southern tip of India. Here people don't go on holidays, but we have lots of tourists coming in [being God's own country]. So there is a risk. But no cases have been reported so far. Smitha It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. -- Andre Gide
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I am from the southern tip of India. Here people don't go on holidays, but we have lots of tourists coming in [being God's own country]. So there is a risk. But no cases have been reported so far. Smitha It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. -- Andre Gide
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Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
Weiye Chen wrote: How's your situation in your country? A former colleague of mine is here in CA with me now. He will be returning to India in one or two months. Right now his return ticket has been booked through Singapore/Seol and he is very tense about SARS. He's been trying hard to try and reschedule it through London. Nish
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Before SARS, i wouldn't think much when going out but now i would really think twice.:~ Even if i go out, it isn't the same as before. I don't know why, but i would be more careful about the environment. Also, the town isn't as busy and crowded as before. :omg: How's your situation in your country? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
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It was a song I remember someone singing. But there are not musical note emoticons. Chris, any chance? MSN has them....
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- C. Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
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Weiye Chen wrote: How's your situation in your country? South Africa has had SARS for years. Many millions have been hunted down and forced to pay by SARS. A few years ago SARS mutated from a fumbling, corrupt and incompetent organisation into a leaner and more lethal strain. Now nobody is safe, not even the very rich. People have been put in jail because of SARS. Consultants have offered me ways of getting around SARS, but I have refused, counting myself as a good South African and not one to cheat the system. I will pay my due and live with it. In fact without SARS, South Africa would crumble. Yes, the South African Revenue Service is indeed a bitch. :rolleyes: My apologies. Was not meant to offend. Just that South Africa has been chuckling quitely to itself everytime the newspaper or TV runs a headline like "SARS wreaks havoc in Hong Kong." or "Londoners hide from SARS." As for the virus, there was a scare here a few days ago but other doctors have labelled it as paranoia. I hope HK can beat it and it does not spread further.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
Paul Watson wrote: I hope HK can beat it and it does not spread further. About I week ago, when I first started googling for some info about SARS, I got a giggle about the South African Revenue Service. It has travelled here to Canada, specifically here in Toronto. There are also reported cases in the US, but not to the same degree. Most hospitals have now stopped all visitations and it appears that the primary transmission occurs at care giver facilities. My wife provides home care services and currently she is no longer seeing anyone new who has just been discharged from a hospital. :(( Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! Those leaks are driving me crazy! How does one finds a memory leak in a garbage collected environment ??! Daniel Turini Nov. 2, 2002.
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Yet again an example of the media making something small into a sensational issue and instilling panic in people. A little perspective please. For example, in the US alone, there are 400,000 smoking related deaths a year. Source: http://www.streetlaw.org/youthact/tobacco/responsible.html[^] Where's the media sensationalism? Where's the public panic? How many millions of Chinese die each year from smoking related deaths? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"Marc Clifton wrote: A little perspective please The perpsective that you are ignoring however is the rate at which new cases are occurring. While the numbers for the states are considerably lower than here in Toronto, it is the growth rate of new cases that is the cause of concern. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! Those leaks are driving me crazy! How does one finds a memory leak in a garbage collected environment ??! Daniel Turini Nov. 2, 2002.
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I do believe I raised the quirky coincidence here more than a week ago. But nobody listens to me :~ So, anyone else here that stayed up the whole night working? I'm getting a second wind after about 14 Vanilla Cokes
ProffK wrote: I do believe I raised the quirky coincidence here more than a week ago. Apologies, I must have missed that post :) ProffK wrote: So, anyone else here that stayed up the whole night working? I'm getting a second wind after about 14 Vanilla Cokes What does Vanilla coke taste like? Whenver I stay up all night at the office I make sure I have a new 2litre bottle of milk, for my tea and coffee. By the morning it is empty. Then I go home and regret all the tanine and caffeine. :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
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Hey, looks like the feds are covering up cases here in the US, havent heard of any infections. Such a shame that a vaccine is miles away..! :mad: Prabhakar.
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ProffK wrote: I do believe I raised the quirky coincidence here more than a week ago. Apologies, I must have missed that post :) ProffK wrote: So, anyone else here that stayed up the whole night working? I'm getting a second wind after about 14 Vanilla Cokes What does Vanilla coke taste like? Whenver I stay up all night at the office I make sure I have a new 2litre bottle of milk, for my tea and coffee. By the morning it is empty. Then I go home and regret all the tanine and caffeine. :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
Paul Watson wrote: What does Vanilla coke taste like? Believe it or not, it's remarkably similar to Coke, mixed with vanilla. If you've both around, put a few drops of vanilla extract into your next glass of Coke (don't forget ice!) and live the dream. ---
But, oh god / Under the weight of life / Things seem / Brighter on the other side - David Matthews, Big Eyed Fish
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Yet again an example of the media making something small into a sensational issue and instilling panic in people. A little perspective please. For example, in the US alone, there are 400,000 smoking related deaths a year. Source: http://www.streetlaw.org/youthact/tobacco/responsible.html[^] Where's the media sensationalism? Where's the public panic? How many millions of Chinese die each year from smoking related deaths? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"As Chris pointed out, the rate and ease of transmission (similar to the ease of transmission of a common cold) and the 3.5% death rate is what is concerning everyone. SARS is very much in a "growth" phase. If SARS spread to everyone in China, we'd be looking at 45 million deaths. ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion
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The mortaility rate is about 4% - not very high for flu given that we are dealing with people with preexisting health problems or the elderly. The transmisibility is very low - basically you need to be sneezed upon to catch it. It doesn't travel through air conditioning or by touch. More people died in HK by commiting suicide last week than died of SARS. As it says on the back of the hitchikers guide to the galaxy: Don't panic '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
Merrion wrote: The transmisibility is very low - basically you need to be sneezed upon to catch it. It doesn't travel through air conditioning or by touch. Err. I wouldn't really call that "very low". AIDS might be considered "very low" since you have to have sex with someone, but sneezing on someone? One website said this ( http://asia.news.yahoo.com/030401/3/uzuq.html[^] ): WHO and Hong Kong experts say the virus spreads through droplets by sneezing or coughing and such direct infection can usually occur within a radius of about three feet (one metre). The virus can also spread indirectly as it can survive outside of the human body for three to six hours. Contact with any object that is tainted by droplets containing the virus, for example, a contaminated phone, could lead to infection if a person then touches their eyes, nose or mouth. Health experts have not ruled out that it could be airborne, which dramatically raises the contagious nature of the virus and would make it far harder to contain. Also, it's not just the old and sick who are dying from SARS. Italy buries doctor who identified the SARS virus[^] Merrion wrote: More people died in HK by commiting suicide last week than died of SARS. But SARS is in a "growth phase". Or are you saying we should ignore the problem until SARS causes a significant number of deaths? (Note: some people said the same things about AIDS over a decade ago - i.e. "(fill in the blank) causes more death than AIDS, so why is everyone worried about it?") ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion