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Richard Deeming wrote:
So you don't see a difference between insulting someone for doing something bad (eg: racism), and insulting someone for doing something good (eg: criticizing racism)?
I do, libs don't - in fact, at lest here in EU, they don't see the difference between shooting a bystander and shooting an invader. In Italy if I shoot defending myself in my home I get prosecuted for murder and have to pay the family of the deceased felon (or the felon if alive) for life... that's the core of this ideology. There is difference between blocking clandestine migrants and being xenophobic. Between punishing criminals and being oppressive. Between acknowledging differences and forcing the differences down the throats of everyone. But only the sane part of the population sees them, it seems.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
den2k88 wrote:
There is difference between blocking clandestine migrants and being xenophobic.
Agreed. :thumbsup: Now, please explain that to people like Nigel Farage. :)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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den2k88 wrote:
There is difference between blocking clandestine migrants and being xenophobic.
Agreed. :thumbsup: Now, please explain that to people like Nigel Farage. :)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
I would gladly :d I'm not neither a Farage, Le Pen, Salvini or trump fan. But I think that a regression might be necessary simply to awaken the fear of what can really happen if things continue to go downhill. The real MIA in today's politics is rationality. Too much facade on one side, too much anger on the other.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
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Nathan Minier wrote:
he liberal approach (lately) seems to be to forgive and even encourage unconscionable violence and hatred in the name of being correct.
There are some who seem to do that. I don't agree with them.
Nathan Minier wrote:
70+ genders? Really?
Agreed, that does seem excessive. But,for both biological gender and "gender identity", the existing binary choice is not enough. And lumping everyone who doesn't fit into the existing boxes together under "other" would be demeaning.
Nathan Minier wrote:
"illegal immigrants" != "immigrants" for legal purposes! RTFM
Agreed - there are those on both sides who can't tell the difference.
Nathan Minier wrote:
everything I've struggled from the bottom for
I don't know what your circumstances are, but it's easy for people to think they've got where they are purely by their own effort, without realising what advantages they had growing up: The Simplest and Most Perfect Explanation of Privilege I’ve Ever Seen[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Well I'm glad we can agree on some points, but that's not been my experience lately.
Richard Deeming wrote:
I don't know what your circumstances are, but it's easy for people to think they've got where they are purely by their own effort, without realising what advantages they had growing up:
I only wish that I had it as good as Paula, she had TWO parents she rarely saw working for her benefit and barely scraping by(ie food, shelter, clothing)! She's a horrible privileged person, let's tear her down!
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
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"A memory dump is a process in which the contents of memory are displayed and stored in case of an application or system crash. Memory dump helps software developers and system administrators to diagnose, identify and resolve the problem that led to application or system failure." Now it is hard to keep up with the sheer amount of scandals, crazy declarations, dangerous precedents and plain simple crap pouring out of white house. I would like to keep a log of only the real major ones. In this thread. So here it goes
America first is the Donald's slogan, please not to be confused with America ueber alles. Today there is a ghost wandering in Europe, the ghost of the question who is second? The country pageant was started by the Netherlands, but others are catching up. My favourite is the german entry: [[Germany second | NEO MAGAZIN ROYALE mit Jan Böhmermann - ZDFneo - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcH9eWBs9fw)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X8JqRTsYRU) [Who is second](http://nltimes.nl/2017/02/03/europe-responds-netherlands-second-pitch-dutch-vid-hits-17-million-views) [Come to EU. It's huge. It's the greatest EU in the world!](http://www.everysecondcounts.eu/)
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I get where you're coming from man. Totally. But in all fairness, if people want people to listen, they too also have to listen. And unfortunately, that doesn't exist in politics. It's a bunch of people with zero experience running a country trying to pretend they're experts because they saw something on the news. And just insulting the other party, who obviously doesn't agree with them. Never mind the fact, 90% of the reason most people even think they way they do is because of their parents and have nothing to do with original thought, so it's just spitting out pre-cooked bias. The party system divides us. The news divides us. When will people see that. :^)
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
It's a bunch of people with zero experience running a country trying to pretend they're experts
That's what happens when you fire everyone on day one and hire a bunch of people "with zero experience". To be clear, the current administration fired people that DID have experience. They were not politicians, they were people doing their job (in some cases for over a decade) and were fired because they didn't have the same ideology as the new administration. But I am sure it will all work out. I am sure nothing shady is going on when the ethics committee is removed from nomination process, no trail of investment is given, calls are made in secrecy to Russian, and nepotism is the only thing hiring people.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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I would gladly :d I'm not neither a Farage, Le Pen, Salvini or trump fan. But I think that a regression might be necessary simply to awaken the fear of what can really happen if things continue to go downhill. The real MIA in today's politics is rationality. Too much facade on one side, too much anger on the other.
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "Go ahead, make my day"
That's partially because presenting a solid, rational argument does not get you elected but, according to the last election, being a complete asshole will.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Richard Deeming wrote:
If you're not an American citizen
Bingo - and it's not that they're "liberal elite", it's that their opinion doesn't f*ckin matter in the United States. At all. In the least. Ever.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Bingo - and it's not that they're "liberal elite", it's that their opinion doesn't f*ckin matter in the United States. At all. In the least. Ever.
Sorry but that is simply not true. Residents do have a say and if you don't respect people that live here just because they don't have citizenry you are asking for problems. It might be good to note that many companies are run, started by, and funded by non citizens residents. So when you run your mouth like that you are setting yourself up for a bad time. BTW, Trump's little ban blocked actual citizens as well. Seems more like a test run to me to see what kind of outcry occurs when he tramples rights and a way to get people pissed at those doing the public outcry. In the end, if the path continues if you don't fit the mold you can assume things won't work for you. Has nothing to do with citizenry or even being a gun toting drumpf loving bigot such as yourself. Anyone is expendable. Trump is in bed with some of the worst people and if you think you are safe cause your skin is whiter than other's you are one dumb POS.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Bingo - and it's not that they're "liberal elite", it's that their opinion doesn't f*ckin matter in the United States. At all. In the least. Ever.
Sorry but that is simply not true. Residents do have a say and if you don't respect people that live here just because they don't have citizenry you are asking for problems. It might be good to note that many companies are run, started by, and funded by non citizens residents. So when you run your mouth like that you are setting yourself up for a bad time. BTW, Trump's little ban blocked actual citizens as well. Seems more like a test run to me to see what kind of outcry occurs when he tramples rights and a way to get people pissed at those doing the public outcry. In the end, if the path continues if you don't fit the mold you can assume things won't work for you. Has nothing to do with citizenry or even being a gun toting drumpf loving bigot such as yourself. Anyone is expendable. Trump is in bed with some of the worst people and if you think you are safe cause your skin is whiter than other's you are one dumb POS.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
N_tro_P wrote:
Seems more like a test run to me to see what kind of outcry occurs when he tramples rights and a way to get people pissed at those doing the public outcry.
The "goat and cow" technique:
When Villains Aren’t Super – Extra Newsfeed[^]
[I]f you want to convince someone to keep a goat in their office, put a goat and a cow in their office. By the time they’re done arguing you down to just a goat, they’ll be thrilled with their victory.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
their opinion doesn't f*ckin matter in the United States. At all. In the least. Ever.
Which is fair enough, when you're talking about things that only affect the United States, and which don't involve human rights abuses. When you're talking about things that have a global impact, you can't expect the global community to remain silent. When you're talking about denying groups of people their human rights, you also can't expect us to just shut up and let you get on with it.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Richard Deeming wrote:
denying groups of people their human rights
It is not a human right to resided in the US just because you want to. We get to say who comes in just like the British do.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Re the OP: Canada is a free country; they have just as much right to criticize the President of the US as USians do. :-\
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
And their critizisms mean nothing.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Richard Deeming wrote:
Well, are you? ;-P
I know it's meant in jest, but as far as the society I live in is concerned I am: because I am a white male that isn't self-hating.
Richard Deeming wrote:
But at least those labels are all for bad things. "Liberal Elite" / "libtard" seems to be the go-to insult thrown at people for caring about their fellow human beings. For having the audacity to think that all human beings should have equal rights (unless they do something particularly bad to forfeit them).
I would think hard about how those words have become insults in the minds of so many. Seriously, the only people that see liberals as concerned about equality are other liberals. No one else does, because that's not how liberals act. The liberal approach (lately) seems to be to forgive and even encourage unconscionable violence and hatred in the name of being correct. I don't think it's hard to figure out what other groups fall in that bucket; you referenced one of them. Equality is an essential thing, but there is a difference between equality of circumstance and equality of result. Equality of circumstance is freedom, equality of result is slavery to the state. The liberal ideology ignores this distinction, and insists on everyone giving until we are all caught by the lowest common denominator, under the claim that it will raise that LCD. And it will, but this is where invention, innovation, and evolution go to die. Now the goal posts have move drastically over the last few years, and the primary problem with that is that those of the liberal bent cannot embrace victory, they continue to push the edge of the ideology further along the spectrum while keeping the bracket of inclusion the same size. You can't support some of the agenda and be embraced; you embrace the most radical ideas or you are not welcome. The ideas at this point include some concepts so mindbogglingly stupid that it is very easy to not be included in that bucket; and the language is tortured to the breaking point in attempts to justify policies that are callously used by the Democrat party(who clearly don't eat the shit they're shoveling) to mobilize targeted segments of the population. All the while the conservatives have not changed much, as is their nature. They also don't make much of an effort to hide it. Are they more worried about protecting their individual self-intere
Thank you! Bookmarked!
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Richard Deeming wrote:
denying groups of people their human rights
It is not a human right to resided in the US just because you want to. We get to say who comes in just like the British do.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
I never claimed it was. :doh:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
It's a bunch of people with zero experience running a country trying to pretend they're experts
That's what happens when you fire everyone on day one and hire a bunch of people "with zero experience". To be clear, the current administration fired people that DID have experience. They were not politicians, they were people doing their job (in some cases for over a decade) and were fired because they didn't have the same ideology as the new administration. But I am sure it will all work out. I am sure nothing shady is going on when the ethics committee is removed from nomination process, no trail of investment is given, calls are made in secrecy to Russian, and nepotism is the only thing hiring people.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
I think he was referring to every politician when he said "people with zero experience". And as for "fire everyone on day one" every president has done that. Even Obama.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
It's a bunch of people with zero experience running a country trying to pretend they're experts
That's what happens when you fire everyone on day one and hire a bunch of people "with zero experience". To be clear, the current administration fired people that DID have experience. They were not politicians, they were people doing their job (in some cases for over a decade) and were fired because they didn't have the same ideology as the new administration. But I am sure it will all work out. I am sure nothing shady is going on when the ethics committee is removed from nomination process, no trail of investment is given, calls are made in secrecy to Russian, and nepotism is the only thing hiring people.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
I'm not interested.
Jeremy Falcon
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I think he was referring to every politician when he said "people with zero experience". And as for "fire everyone on day one" every president has done that. Even Obama.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
TheGreatAndPowerfulOzI think he was referring to every politician when he said "people with zero experience".
I know he was, but I was trying to point out that makes no sense. The politicians (like them or not) actually DO have experience in governing. Especially compared to the current administration which not only doesn't have experience but also chose to remove people under their nominations which had experience.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOzAnd as for "fire everyone on day one" every president has done that. Even Obama.
That's is an outright lie. It has been tradition to phase it for all incoming presidents. That's not to say what Trump did is illegal or "wrong", but I would say it is foolish and likely to cause serious gaps in bureaucracy efficiency and allow for more corruption.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOzI think he was referring to every politician when he said "people with zero experience".
I know he was, but I was trying to point out that makes no sense. The politicians (like them or not) actually DO have experience in governing. Especially compared to the current administration which not only doesn't have experience but also chose to remove people under their nominations which had experience.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOzAnd as for "fire everyone on day one" every president has done that. Even Obama.
That's is an outright lie. It has been tradition to phase it for all incoming presidents. That's not to say what Trump did is illegal or "wrong", but I would say it is foolish and likely to cause serious gaps in bureaucracy efficiency and allow for more corruption.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
We'll have to disagree. And you sure seem to love to call people liars. TTYL.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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We'll have to disagree. And you sure seem to love to call people liars. TTYL.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
TheGreatAndPowerfulOzWe'll have to disagree.
This isn't a matter of disagreement. Obama did not pull back Bush's UN ambassadors on day 1 so that alone proves you are wrong. I can give you countless other examples as well but since you made the claim that he fired ALL past positions on day 1 it is already proven false.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOzAnd you sure seem to love to call people liars.
Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, by golly... Its a flipping duck.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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I get where you're coming from man. Totally. But in all fairness, if people want people to listen, they too also have to listen. And unfortunately, that doesn't exist in politics. It's a bunch of people with zero experience running a country trying to pretend they're experts because they saw something on the news. And just insulting the other party, who obviously doesn't agree with them. Never mind the fact, 90% of the reason most people even think they way they do is because of their parents and have nothing to do with original thought, so it's just spitting out pre-cooked bias. The party system divides us. The news divides us. When will people see that. :^)
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Never mind the fact, 90% of the reason most people even think they way they do is because of their parents and have nothing to do with original thought, so it's just spitting out pre-cooked bias
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I take it that you have no children?
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOzWe'll have to disagree.
This isn't a matter of disagreement. Obama did not pull back Bush's UN ambassadors on day 1 so that alone proves you are wrong. I can give you countless other examples as well but since you made the claim that he fired ALL past positions on day 1 it is already proven false.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOzAnd you sure seem to love to call people liars.
Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, by golly... Its a flipping duck.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
One can be sincerely wrong and inadvertently tell a falsehood without intent to do so. But hey, you must be an asshat who beats his wife since you act like one.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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We'll have to disagree. And you sure seem to love to call people liars. TTYL.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
You are one sick fuck. While others may not see your other message I did. Shame on you for being so childish.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
