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  • I Idaho Edokpayi

    This will take real self awareness and reflection, and I think using the words "smartest person in the room" is dangerous because it can make you arrogant and complacent. Avoid situations and companies where you are the only person learning and growing, but be open to learning from others. Everyone needs to learn to identify what other people know that they don't. Without knowing the specifics of your situation maybe the truth is that the other people are merely interested in learning different things? On the other hand, most companies are stagnant and a little stupid and the fact that they haven't yet bankrupted themselves or been superseded by a smarter more nimble competitor is remarkable!

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    Thanks for this man. And what you speak of is truth. What I think the issue really is, rather than saying everyone is stupid, is we have a bunch of people with social anxiety issues here that are overly stressed. Getting in their heads too much and thus not paying attention to anything. So they lack clarity.

    Idaho Edokpayi wrote:

    On the other hand, most companies are stagnant and a little stupid and the fact that they haven't yet bankrupted themselves or been superseded by a smarter more nimble competitor is remarkable!

    Preach it brother.

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      Thanks for this man. And what you speak of is truth. What I think the issue really is, rather than saying everyone is stupid, is we have a bunch of people with social anxiety issues here that are overly stressed. Getting in their heads too much and thus not paying attention to anything. So they lack clarity.

      Idaho Edokpayi wrote:

      On the other hand, most companies are stagnant and a little stupid and the fact that they haven't yet bankrupted themselves or been superseded by a smarter more nimble competitor is remarkable!

      Preach it brother.

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      I think many of us have been where you are. The truth is that for most of us THERE IS NO HAPPY PLACE. Maybe you can work for yourself? As coders we have to learn that most businesses are not in the business of code - stupid code is ok as long as it makes money. However, business does not seem to be aware of the extent that code can disrupt the current way that they do business.

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        I think many of us have been where you are. The truth is that for most of us THERE IS NO HAPPY PLACE. Maybe you can work for yourself? As coders we have to learn that most businesses are not in the business of code - stupid code is ok as long as it makes money. However, business does not seem to be aware of the extent that code can disrupt the current way that they do business.

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        I know what you mean man, but it's not even so much code related. It's just cognitive acumen I'm referring to. The code can suffer as a result of that, but I wouldn't expect business people to know code no more than I expect me to be an expert mechanic when taking my truck to the shop. Anyway, it's amazing what stress and social anxiety can do. Never really seen just how much it messes with a person until you get a group of people together that all have it.

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          I know what you mean man, but it's not even so much code related. It's just cognitive acumen I'm referring to. The code can suffer as a result of that, but I wouldn't expect business people to know code no more than I expect me to be an expert mechanic when taking my truck to the shop. Anyway, it's amazing what stress and social anxiety can do. Never really seen just how much it messes with a person until you get a group of people together that all have it.

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          I am speaking to the value assigned to developers and people who aggressively use technology to solve problems. A kid with some javascript and a database can replace thousands of human hours of labor in a week.

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            So, in our careers, I'm sure we've all learned there are really smart people and there are those that aren't. Maybe they pretend to be smart when not, maybe they embrace being not so smart and just laugh at it. Maybe they're not book smart, but street smart. And sometimes we think someone is less intelligent, when they're in fact super smart. And vice versa. Either way, you get the drift. However, despite appearances, there are those that seem to figure things out and those that don't. And by the nature of even suggesting you're more intelligent than another, also lends itself to arrogance. Which everyone knows arrogance and intelligence conflict and cannot be considered smart. And yet, even Einstein thought the world stupid. And of course, it doesn't mean to say that less intelligent people cannot teach more intelligent people things and vice versa. But, what do you guys do, when faced with a situation where you feel it's impossible to grow intellectually because of the environment? In situations where you clearly know you're the smartest in the room, save a few gems you meet on occasion? And I don't mean smart as in knowing more about computers. I mean smart as in being more aware and conscious, less in your head and more observant, picking up on things quicker, remembering more, etc... cognition and perception prowess as it were. Everyone else seems dazed and confused, and you get bored. I know for me, I've been annoyed and frustrated with this practically my whole life, to the point it can create undue stress. Which is counter intuitive and destructive actually, because increased "knowing" should make people happy. And frustration is bad juju that's contagious. And yet, I'm still undecided if this is mainly due to me looking for the worst in people and trying to feel smarter due to inherent insecurities, or in fact I just am. Or both. Surely, someone on CP has faced this too? What do you guys do when you clearly know you see things clearer but you're alone in that regards?

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            Don't worry about what the other boys do, worry about what you do. Use your gift by all means, but don't brag or criticise others for not being a clever as you. Help them because one day you'll need someone to help you. No-one is invincible; if you pay it forward it will come back to you by another route.

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              Don't worry about what the other boys do, worry about what you do. Use your gift by all means, but don't brag or criticise others for not being a clever as you. Help them because one day you'll need someone to help you. No-one is invincible; if you pay it forward it will come back to you by another route.

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              I know you're correct in every sense of the words you speak. I have my weaknesses too I suppose, just in different areas. Also, I find that I'm more business-y now and less IT-y as I continue to grow. So my job has to change along with that so I can stay happy. And with happiness comes the ability to do the stuff you mention. Thank you for your reply.

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