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    ...until a Windows 10 update takes that away from you. Alright, so I may be jumping the gun on blaming this on a Windows update, but I am not sure what else it could be. I have been searching for solutions out there on the net thing, but I have not disabled the "Quick Access" feature in Explorer, I don't have Explorer hacks in the registry or anything like that and pressing the ESC key certainly does not fix it. I have no problems doing drag-and-drop with files inside Explorer, moving them from one folder to another. The problem is that I cannot drag files into applications running with elevated privileges. Take something as simple as Notepad. I have found that now I cannot drag-and-drop a text file into a Notepad instance if it is launched using "Run as Administrator", but it works fine when launched normally. And it is the same with Visual Studio, which I also have set to "Run as Administrator" from my taskbar icon. For some reason I am also unable to drag-and-drop into Edge even though I haven't used the elevated privileges on that. Yes, I can drag-and-drop into Chrome - unless I use "Run as Administrator". All this worked yesterday (Wednesday). Before a number of updates were rolled out. GreatMarkO described the problem I am seeing pretty well in November, 2015: how to fix drag and drop in windows 10? (page 4) - Microsoft Community[^] There are quite a few suggestions in this thread and I am leaning towards the ones blaming "smartscreen.exe", but that is one persistent little bugger. You can kill the process, but it starts right back up again. I tried setting the options for it to Off in the Windows Defender Security Center, but that didn't seem to help and it doesn't seem to be something I want to turn off. For now I might just follow the approach taken by BruceLeyland-Jones (page 15 of that same thread)

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    I recently got a new computer, with Windows 10 installed, and had absolutely no problems with drag and drop...until today! Now I cannot drag and drop anything and learned that this is a well-known issue. I've run the usual scans and there are no corrupted files and was getting in

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      ...until a Windows 10 update takes that away from you. Alright, so I may be jumping the gun on blaming this on a Windows update, but I am not sure what else it could be. I have been searching for solutions out there on the net thing, but I have not disabled the "Quick Access" feature in Explorer, I don't have Explorer hacks in the registry or anything like that and pressing the ESC key certainly does not fix it. I have no problems doing drag-and-drop with files inside Explorer, moving them from one folder to another. The problem is that I cannot drag files into applications running with elevated privileges. Take something as simple as Notepad. I have found that now I cannot drag-and-drop a text file into a Notepad instance if it is launched using "Run as Administrator", but it works fine when launched normally. And it is the same with Visual Studio, which I also have set to "Run as Administrator" from my taskbar icon. For some reason I am also unable to drag-and-drop into Edge even though I haven't used the elevated privileges on that. Yes, I can drag-and-drop into Chrome - unless I use "Run as Administrator". All this worked yesterday (Wednesday). Before a number of updates were rolled out. GreatMarkO described the problem I am seeing pretty well in November, 2015: how to fix drag and drop in windows 10? (page 4) - Microsoft Community[^] There are quite a few suggestions in this thread and I am leaning towards the ones blaming "smartscreen.exe", but that is one persistent little bugger. You can kill the process, but it starts right back up again. I tried setting the options for it to Off in the Windows Defender Security Center, but that didn't seem to help and it doesn't seem to be something I want to turn off. For now I might just follow the approach taken by BruceLeyland-Jones (page 15 of that same thread)

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      I recently got a new computer, with Windows 10 installed, and had absolutely no problems with drag and drop...until today! Now I cannot drag and drop anything and learned that this is a well-known issue. I've run the usual scans and there are no corrupted files and was getting in

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      This goes back to 2010! Q: Why Doesn’t Drag-and-Drop work when my Application is Running Elevated? – A: Mandatory Integrity Control and UIPI – Pat's Windows Development Blog[^] I'm not sure it ever worked, I don't run elevated unless I really, really have to.

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        ...until a Windows 10 update takes that away from you. Alright, so I may be jumping the gun on blaming this on a Windows update, but I am not sure what else it could be. I have been searching for solutions out there on the net thing, but I have not disabled the "Quick Access" feature in Explorer, I don't have Explorer hacks in the registry or anything like that and pressing the ESC key certainly does not fix it. I have no problems doing drag-and-drop with files inside Explorer, moving them from one folder to another. The problem is that I cannot drag files into applications running with elevated privileges. Take something as simple as Notepad. I have found that now I cannot drag-and-drop a text file into a Notepad instance if it is launched using "Run as Administrator", but it works fine when launched normally. And it is the same with Visual Studio, which I also have set to "Run as Administrator" from my taskbar icon. For some reason I am also unable to drag-and-drop into Edge even though I haven't used the elevated privileges on that. Yes, I can drag-and-drop into Chrome - unless I use "Run as Administrator". All this worked yesterday (Wednesday). Before a number of updates were rolled out. GreatMarkO described the problem I am seeing pretty well in November, 2015: how to fix drag and drop in windows 10? (page 4) - Microsoft Community[^] There are quite a few suggestions in this thread and I am leaning towards the ones blaming "smartscreen.exe", but that is one persistent little bugger. You can kill the process, but it starts right back up again. I tried setting the options for it to Off in the Windows Defender Security Center, but that didn't seem to help and it doesn't seem to be something I want to turn off. For now I might just follow the approach taken by BruceLeyland-Jones (page 15 of that same thread)

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        I recently got a new computer, with Windows 10 installed, and had absolutely no problems with drag and drop...until today! Now I cannot drag and drop anything and learned that this is a well-known issue. I've run the usual scans and there are no corrupted files and was getting in

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        SoMad wrote:

        The problem is that I cannot drag files into applications running with elevated privileges.

        It is running under a different user-context. Open your explorer also in Admin mode and try again. Wouldn't be surprised if they blocked that too btw :)

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          SoMad wrote:

          The problem is that I cannot drag files into applications running with elevated privileges.

          It is running under a different user-context. Open your explorer also in Admin mode and try again. Wouldn't be surprised if they blocked that too btw :)

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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          It is: elevated Explorer can't drop onto elevated notepad. I suspect you are right, and it's user context thingy.

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            It is: elevated Explorer can't drop onto elevated notepad. I suspect you are right, and it's user context thingy.

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            Makes me feel safe - though I don't think it is as much a security-feature, but more a speed-optimization.

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              This goes back to 2010! Q: Why Doesn’t Drag-and-Drop work when my Application is Running Elevated? – A: Mandatory Integrity Control and UIPI – Pat's Windows Development Blog[^] I'm not sure it ever worked, I don't run elevated unless I really, really have to.

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Yeah, I've been running 2012 R2 on a VM and that "issue" has been in there since I've been running it. It really is a pain when you first encounter it though. Also, if you attempt to drag and drop files from a network drive that has a mapped drive (t:\location) to a local folder you will not be able to do it either. However, it does seem to work if you drag and drop from the same network drive if you referenced the drive via UNC path (\\corp\location). Go figure.

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                Yeah, I've been running 2012 R2 on a VM and that "issue" has been in there since I've been running it. It really is a pain when you first encounter it though. Also, if you attempt to drag and drop files from a network drive that has a mapped drive (t:\location) to a local folder you will not be able to do it either. However, it does seem to work if you drag and drop from the same network drive if you referenced the drive via UNC path (\\corp\location). Go figure.

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                raddevus wrote:

                if you attempt to drag and drop files from a network drive that has a mapped drive (t:\location) to a local folder you will not be able to do it either.

                I assume that's elevated? Because drag and drop to / from my mapped drives on the NAS (A:, B:, X:, Z:, P:, V:, ...) all work with unelevated Explorer windows.

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                  raddevus wrote:

                  if you attempt to drag and drop files from a network drive that has a mapped drive (t:\location) to a local folder you will not be able to do it either.

                  I assume that's elevated? Because drag and drop to / from my mapped drives on the NAS (A:, B:, X:, Z:, P:, V:, ...) all work with unelevated Explorer windows.

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  I assume that's elevated?

                  You are probably right about that. :thumbsup: I just know that it's a pain the way mine is setup.

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                    It is: elevated Explorer can't drop onto elevated notepad. I suspect you are right, and it's user context thingy.

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    I've first run into exactly that months ago, so I doubt it can be attributed to a recent update, unless OP has just recently installed whatever (now) old update introduced that "feature". Every once in a while, I'll launch Notepad elevated, because I want to edit my hosts file. Then I try to drag the file from Explorer (which isn't elevated), and Notepad will refuse to do anything with it. Solution: Use the elevated Notepad instance's File/Open, or launch Explorer itself as an elevated user. Then D&D will work. I've learned to live with it. Bottom line: It's not "new", and whether it's "problem" is up to one's interpretation.

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                      I've first run into exactly that months ago, so I doubt it can be attributed to a recent update, unless OP has just recently installed whatever (now) old update introduced that "feature". Every once in a while, I'll launch Notepad elevated, because I want to edit my hosts file. Then I try to drag the file from Explorer (which isn't elevated), and Notepad will refuse to do anything with it. Solution: Use the elevated Notepad instance's File/Open, or launch Explorer itself as an elevated user. Then D&D will work. I've learned to live with it. Bottom line: It's not "new", and whether it's "problem" is up to one's interpretation.

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                      It is new to me and I have not been postponing any updates. I have a habit of drag-and-dropping XML files into Edge when running certain tests and that was working. I drag-and-drop files all the time into Visual Studio as well, which I also have to run elevated. Launching Explorer elevated does not allow me to do it either.

                      "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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                        This goes back to 2010! Q: Why Doesn’t Drag-and-Drop work when my Application is Running Elevated? – A: Mandatory Integrity Control and UIPI – Pat's Windows Development Blog[^] I'm not sure it ever worked, I don't run elevated unless I really, really have to.

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        SoMad
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                        It was working for me. Perhaps because I had the UAC dialed all the way down and something changed in the way that works. I followed the suggestion by GreatMarkO to turn UAC completely off through the registry. Now I can drag-and-drop again and I am still able to run the built-in (Store) apps - Photos, Weather, News, etc. I think I will go with this setting for now.

                        "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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