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Slacker007 wrote:
Frankly, I think your post is trying to cause unnecessary panic.
Golden rule : Those who fret, stays relevant in the industry. I'm sure Chris is aware what he needs to do. Like I said, I could all be wrong. I'm just posting my view of things. I do train fresh developers to make them employable in companies. Training on basics like OOAD, devops , Agile , etc. As part of my role in my job. I've interacted with 60+ developers, none of them have a vivid idea about CP. They talk well about Google I/O, Apple events & other sites but not CP. A huge % of their technical knowledge, as I observed, is attributed to Youtube. At the end of sessions I do make sure I take this survey to know if they are aware of sites like "Stackoverflow, Codeproject, MSDN". I just generalize and check how they react. I see a clear distinct acknowledgement for SO but not CP, MSDN. May be I did interact with a specific cohort of developers who never had a need/chance to look into CP. I'm not sure.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
Vunic wrote:
I've interacted with 60+ developers, none of them have a vivid idea about CP.
Vunic wrote:
A huge % of their technical knowledge, as I observed, is attributed to Youtube.
They have to read and to think here. Probably that's why they need your training to make them employable for companies too. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Slacker007 wrote:
Frankly, I think your post is trying to cause unnecessary panic.
Golden rule : Those who fret, stays relevant in the industry. I'm sure Chris is aware what he needs to do. Like I said, I could all be wrong. I'm just posting my view of things. I do train fresh developers to make them employable in companies. Training on basics like OOAD, devops , Agile , etc. As part of my role in my job. I've interacted with 60+ developers, none of them have a vivid idea about CP. They talk well about Google I/O, Apple events & other sites but not CP. A huge % of their technical knowledge, as I observed, is attributed to Youtube. At the end of sessions I do make sure I take this survey to know if they are aware of sites like "Stackoverflow, Codeproject, MSDN". I just generalize and check how they react. I see a clear distinct acknowledgement for SO but not CP, MSDN. May be I did interact with a specific cohort of developers who never had a need/chance to look into CP. I'm not sure.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
Vunic wrote:
A huge % of their technical knowledge, as I observed, is attributed to Youtube.
I've noticed that: and that's a problem, because most of the you-tube technical content is done by people who have no idea why what they do works. The good stuff is rare, and tends to be well hidden because it's badly presented - the originator is more interested in the content than the medium, which is death to a YouTube video. And the total lack of moderation there encourages the lowest common denominator content... :sigh:
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Slacker007 wrote:
Frankly, I think your post is trying to cause unnecessary panic.
Golden rule : Those who fret, stays relevant in the industry. I'm sure Chris is aware what he needs to do. Like I said, I could all be wrong. I'm just posting my view of things. I do train fresh developers to make them employable in companies. Training on basics like OOAD, devops , Agile , etc. As part of my role in my job. I've interacted with 60+ developers, none of them have a vivid idea about CP. They talk well about Google I/O, Apple events & other sites but not CP. A huge % of their technical knowledge, as I observed, is attributed to Youtube. At the end of sessions I do make sure I take this survey to know if they are aware of sites like "Stackoverflow, Codeproject, MSDN". I just generalize and check how they react. I see a clear distinct acknowledgement for SO but not CP, MSDN. May be I did interact with a specific cohort of developers who never had a need/chance to look into CP. I'm not sure.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
Vunic wrote:
I see a clear distinct acknowledgement for SO but not CP, MSDN
That's primarily because of google search results. SO is featured very high up in their results pretty much all the time. MSDN and CP links do get returned but most people would just click on the link, read the article, get the info they needed, and move on.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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Vunic wrote:
I've interacted with 60+ developers, none of them have a vivid idea about CP.
Vunic wrote:
A huge % of their technical knowledge, as I observed, is attributed to Youtube.
They have to read and to think here. Probably that's why they need your training to make them employable for companies too. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Nelek wrote:
They have to read and to think here. Probably that's why they need your training to make them employable for companies too
You said it right. They bubble up with energies & do not care to read about anything in-depth. They just turn a code sample into a working code for their purpose in no time. And a majority of start-ups is looking for these type of grasshoppers who can do something quick on the UI and call it an App and try to sell it. I see how the work-flow is happening. 1. For example, for an Android App - Sample code is given in Android documentation site itself. They take it, put it into blocks of working code & try to achieve what they wanted to, for their requirement. 2. When they are struck, they go straight to stackoverflow and post questions.(and spam them lol) 3. When on earth, they'd get a chance to get into sites like CP? unless there's some direction given to them? My job is make them buy right books, direct them to sites like CP & let them understand what it means to develop a career out of "Software Engineering".
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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Vunic wrote:
I see a clear distinct acknowledgement for SO but not CP, MSDN
That's primarily because of google search results. SO is featured very high up in their results pretty much all the time. MSDN and CP links do get returned but most people would just click on the link, read the article, get the info they needed, and move on.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
Right! My intention, you might get it Nish. CP shouldnt become the next ...[^] and become a subject of a Circle of life story. I don't know if CG.com is suriving actively by some healthy biz, but the site looks dreadfully haunted. I remember those days where we used to see CG shoulder to shoulder with CP. Now they almost look irrelevant.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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Slacker007 wrote:
Frankly, I think your post is trying to cause unnecessary panic.
Golden rule : Those who fret, stays relevant in the industry. I'm sure Chris is aware what he needs to do. Like I said, I could all be wrong. I'm just posting my view of things. I do train fresh developers to make them employable in companies. Training on basics like OOAD, devops , Agile , etc. As part of my role in my job. I've interacted with 60+ developers, none of them have a vivid idea about CP. They talk well about Google I/O, Apple events & other sites but not CP. A huge % of their technical knowledge, as I observed, is attributed to Youtube. At the end of sessions I do make sure I take this survey to know if they are aware of sites like "Stackoverflow, Codeproject, MSDN". I just generalize and check how they react. I see a clear distinct acknowledgement for SO but not CP, MSDN. May be I did interact with a specific cohort of developers who never had a need/chance to look into CP. I'm not sure.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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Can Medium.com[^] be eroding into CP's strong hold? In particular the first-time authors of tech articles. Though Medium.com is a pile of mixed content , It might gradually start to have more technical articles, mainly from young authors who is writing about Kotlin, Swift, React, Vu.js or anything that's buzzing around freshly. These people might not know the legendary nature of CP, they might not get a chance to know. I could all be wrong. Just a heads-up! Chris is watching? I'm sure we wouldn't be wanting to have a dejavu of this phenomena like, Stackoverflow taking over the whole "technical discussion" department all of a sudden. It all happened like a navy seal mission. One fine day there was this thing called stackoverflow.com and a planet of tech aliens discussing topics as if CP discussion forums never existed. Just a sample from Medium.com[^]
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
Write an article on Medium.com about CodeProject explaining why it is so good.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Nelek wrote:
They have to read and to think here. Probably that's why they need your training to make them employable for companies too
You said it right. They bubble up with energies & do not care to read about anything in-depth. They just turn a code sample into a working code for their purpose in no time. And a majority of start-ups is looking for these type of grasshoppers who can do something quick on the UI and call it an App and try to sell it. I see how the work-flow is happening. 1. For example, for an Android App - Sample code is given in Android documentation site itself. They take it, put it into blocks of working code & try to achieve what they wanted to, for their requirement. 2. When they are struck, they go straight to stackoverflow and post questions.(and spam them lol) 3. When on earth, they'd get a chance to get into sites like CP? unless there's some direction given to them? My job is make them buy right books, direct them to sites like CP & let them understand what it means to develop a career out of "Software Engineering".
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
Vunic wrote:
2. When they are struck, they go straight to stackoverflow and post questions.(and spam them lol) 3. When on earth, they'd get a chance to get into sites like CP? unless there's some direction given to them?
Then I would say... STOP DOING IT I can see a direct correlation between you starting your training and the increasing amount of DO'H and WTF questions in the Q&A :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Can Medium.com[^] be eroding into CP's strong hold? In particular the first-time authors of tech articles. Though Medium.com is a pile of mixed content , It might gradually start to have more technical articles, mainly from young authors who is writing about Kotlin, Swift, React, Vu.js or anything that's buzzing around freshly. These people might not know the legendary nature of CP, they might not get a chance to know. I could all be wrong. Just a heads-up! Chris is watching? I'm sure we wouldn't be wanting to have a dejavu of this phenomena like, Stackoverflow taking over the whole "technical discussion" department all of a sudden. It all happened like a navy seal mission. One fine day there was this thing called stackoverflow.com and a planet of tech aliens discussing topics as if CP discussion forums never existed. Just a sample from Medium.com[^]
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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Can Medium.com[^] be eroding into CP's strong hold? In particular the first-time authors of tech articles. Though Medium.com is a pile of mixed content , It might gradually start to have more technical articles, mainly from young authors who is writing about Kotlin, Swift, React, Vu.js or anything that's buzzing around freshly. These people might not know the legendary nature of CP, they might not get a chance to know. I could all be wrong. Just a heads-up! Chris is watching? I'm sure we wouldn't be wanting to have a dejavu of this phenomena like, Stackoverflow taking over the whole "technical discussion" department all of a sudden. It all happened like a navy seal mission. One fine day there was this thing called stackoverflow.com and a planet of tech aliens discussing topics as if CP discussion forums never existed. Just a sample from Medium.com[^]
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
MSDN did not erode CP, and C# corner either. As long as CP keeps its strength, it will do well continuously. There are some historical cases that popular sites diminished, like myspace.com and a number of search engines (AltaVista, Excite...) . But CP will not be one of them.
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