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  • M Munchies_Matt

    That's it, I finally admitted I am fat. There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it: Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI. Rye bread for example has a Glycemic Index of 45, not much more than broccoli, so that is an OK carb. Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it. Started a few days ago and losing half a kilo a day: 121.3 121 120.5 120 119.5 It works. Really. My target is 100 kgs, I weighed that when I was ~30. I cold hit this by the end of March at this rate! Ideal, want to go skiing, and NOT lugging 20kgs around is going to make me ski great! :) One note, I was very tired for two days on zero carbs, so I had a rye bread cheese fondue. About 1000 calories in total. Feel much better. And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.

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    snorkie
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    Congrats Matt on making a change! I hope you find the willpower to reach all of your goals. The struggle is real!

    Hogan

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      I intend to make this a long term thing. It is easy to stick to, and you are not hungry. Meat, veg, nice sauces, and even as I said a cheese fondue, there is nothing NOT to like about that lot! Because of the amount of physical work I dont on the house, I am currently rebuilding a wall knocked over by a car, I got some work out drink, high energy and nutrients, no sugar. I am going to try that when I get tired, it might kick the body into fat burning mode. Look, body builders trim down before events, and work out while doing so to get their fat down to really low levels, so they must know some tricks. :)

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      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      Look, body builders trim down before events, and work out while doing so to get their fat down to really low levels, so they must know some tricks. :)

      Yeah, they do drugs.

      I'd rather be phishing!

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      • M Munchies_Matt

        That's it, I finally admitted I am fat. There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it: Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI. Rye bread for example has a Glycemic Index of 45, not much more than broccoli, so that is an OK carb. Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it. Started a few days ago and losing half a kilo a day: 121.3 121 120.5 120 119.5 It works. Really. My target is 100 kgs, I weighed that when I was ~30. I cold hit this by the end of March at this rate! Ideal, want to go skiing, and NOT lugging 20kgs around is going to make me ski great! :) One note, I was very tired for two days on zero carbs, so I had a rye bread cheese fondue. About 1000 calories in total. Feel much better. And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.

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        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it

        There's nothing gross about it, and 120 kg is enough to work as a bouncer. I'm underweight, so trying to do your opposite.

        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it.

        Yes, because it is fermented. Stuff like sauerkraut (on bread with a wurst, or "hotdog"), kefir (fermented milk, yoghurt like), kombucha (fermented tea), and any pickles contain similar bacteria. If you pasteurize any of those (or heat it in general), then some of the good bacteria in it will die. The sauerkraut has the added benefit of providing lots of fibers.

        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI

        So no more take-out Chinese or pizza? I do hope you have at least one cheat-day per month?

        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.

        Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories (Source[^]) Best wishes, hope you achieve your goal :)

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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        • M Munchies_Matt

          That's it, I finally admitted I am fat. There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it: Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI. Rye bread for example has a Glycemic Index of 45, not much more than broccoli, so that is an OK carb. Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it. Started a few days ago and losing half a kilo a day: 121.3 121 120.5 120 119.5 It works. Really. My target is 100 kgs, I weighed that when I was ~30. I cold hit this by the end of March at this rate! Ideal, want to go skiing, and NOT lugging 20kgs around is going to make me ski great! :) One note, I was very tired for two days on zero carbs, so I had a rye bread cheese fondue. About 1000 calories in total. Feel much better. And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.

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          First and foremost: Ask a bunch of nerds on a programming forum!!! That'll go well. ;P seriously, Go see a dietitian or a nutritionist. spend a few bucks getting a good nutrition plan based on your lifestyle and need and goal.

          I'd rather be phishing!

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            Munchies_Matt wrote:

            There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it

            There's nothing gross about it, and 120 kg is enough to work as a bouncer. I'm underweight, so trying to do your opposite.

            Munchies_Matt wrote:

            Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it.

            Yes, because it is fermented. Stuff like sauerkraut (on bread with a wurst, or "hotdog"), kefir (fermented milk, yoghurt like), kombucha (fermented tea), and any pickles contain similar bacteria. If you pasteurize any of those (or heat it in general), then some of the good bacteria in it will die. The sauerkraut has the added benefit of providing lots of fibers.

            Munchies_Matt wrote:

            Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI

            So no more take-out Chinese or pizza? I do hope you have at least one cheat-day per month?

            Munchies_Matt wrote:

            And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.

            Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories (Source[^]) Best wishes, hope you achieve your goal :)

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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            You forgot the beer. :)

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            • J Jorgen Andersson

              You forgot the beer. :)

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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              A single yeast-culture is a bit different from the probiotics-culture in sauerkraut :)

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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              • M Maximilien

                First and foremost: Ask a bunch of nerds on a programming forum!!! That'll go well. ;P seriously, Go see a dietitian or a nutritionist. spend a few bucks getting a good nutrition plan based on your lifestyle and need and goal.

                I'd rather be phishing!

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                Maximilien wrote:

                Go see a dietitian or a nutritionist.

                ..and pay a lot for the latest official guidelines and nonsense. You can keep your two liters of water per day :)

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  That's it, I finally admitted I am fat. There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it: Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI. Rye bread for example has a Glycemic Index of 45, not much more than broccoli, so that is an OK carb. Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it. Started a few days ago and losing half a kilo a day: 121.3 121 120.5 120 119.5 It works. Really. My target is 100 kgs, I weighed that when I was ~30. I cold hit this by the end of March at this rate! Ideal, want to go skiing, and NOT lugging 20kgs around is going to make me ski great! :) One note, I was very tired for two days on zero carbs, so I had a rye bread cheese fondue. About 1000 calories in total. Feel much better. And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.

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                  You're going to fail in the long term because you've bought into the fitness-industry-myths. No industry works to put itself out of business, if what the fitness industry told you about weight loss worked then they'd be doing just that, so everything they tell you is a lie. Lies you (and from the replies, every other person on this thread) believe, so you are, I'm afraid, doomed to fail. Think about it...if losing weight or maintaining a healthy weight was such a complex balance of what you eat and chemical interactions then why aren't the intelligent nations healthy and the stupid nations fat? Why do you only get an obesity crisis in countries where manual labour is rare and food is in abundance?

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                  • F F ES Sitecore

                    You're going to fail in the long term because you've bought into the fitness-industry-myths. No industry works to put itself out of business, if what the fitness industry told you about weight loss worked then they'd be doing just that, so everything they tell you is a lie. Lies you (and from the replies, every other person on this thread) believe, so you are, I'm afraid, doomed to fail. Think about it...if losing weight or maintaining a healthy weight was such a complex balance of what you eat and chemical interactions then why aren't the intelligent nations healthy and the stupid nations fat? Why do you only get an obesity crisis in countries where manual labour is rare and food is in abundance?

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    :doh: Because we like good food, and can afford it. :rolleyes:

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      That's it, I finally admitted I am fat. There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it: Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI. Rye bread for example has a Glycemic Index of 45, not much more than broccoli, so that is an OK carb. Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it. Started a few days ago and losing half a kilo a day: 121.3 121 120.5 120 119.5 It works. Really. My target is 100 kgs, I weighed that when I was ~30. I cold hit this by the end of March at this rate! Ideal, want to go skiing, and NOT lugging 20kgs around is going to make me ski great! :) One note, I was very tired for two days on zero carbs, so I had a rye bread cheese fondue. About 1000 calories in total. Feel much better. And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.

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                      I got up to 189 lbs and saw my dad ( who at one time must have hit 250+) coming in the mirror, so I went low carb. Yippy down to 160. It just melted off. When you starve you body of carbs I has no choice but to convert that fat into energy. I found out that is was carbs I really liked all along. :-D

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                      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                        Really? I say looz wayt.

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                        Munchies_Matt
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                        I like spelling 'learned' as 'learnt', the way it is pronounced. it is a valid spelling still though not common. English is basically a mess though, I think we should just spell stuff how we like, it always was that way. :)

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                        • S snorkie

                          Congrats Matt on making a change! I hope you find the willpower to reach all of your goals. The struggle is real!

                          Hogan

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          Thanks! :)

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                          • J Jorgen Andersson

                            Munchies_Matt wrote:

                            One benefit of apple cider vinegar is helping to normalise blood sugar,

                            Never heard of that, why would it do that?

                            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            Apparently it slows the passage of food out of the stomach, so it doesnt hit the small intestine so fast, and give the sugar spike, so even if you eat carbs, ACV means a lower spike.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it

                              There's nothing gross about it, and 120 kg is enough to work as a bouncer. I'm underweight, so trying to do your opposite.

                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it.

                              Yes, because it is fermented. Stuff like sauerkraut (on bread with a wurst, or "hotdog"), kefir (fermented milk, yoghurt like), kombucha (fermented tea), and any pickles contain similar bacteria. If you pasteurize any of those (or heat it in general), then some of the good bacteria in it will die. The sauerkraut has the added benefit of providing lots of fibers.

                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI

                              So no more take-out Chinese or pizza? I do hope you have at least one cheat-day per month?

                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.

                              Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories (Source[^]) Best wishes, hope you achieve your goal :)

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                              Munchies_Matt
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                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              120 kg is enough to work as a bouncer

                              I am 6 ft 4 (195 cm) and pretty hefty, I have a 120cm chest measurement for example, but also fat. A gut. And it disgusts me. :( Yeah, kimchi too, any fermented stuff (except beer and wine) has good bacteria. And yeah, no takeaway. I dont like takeaway anyway, I can cook way better at home, better than most restaurants, easilly. Thats part of the reason I got so big, I love food, I love cooking, and I love wine.

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                              • M Maximilien

                                First and foremost: Ask a bunch of nerds on a programming forum!!! That'll go well. ;P seriously, Go see a dietitian or a nutritionist. spend a few bucks getting a good nutrition plan based on your lifestyle and need and goal.

                                I'd rather be phishing!

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                                Munchies_Matt
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                                Aint asking, just telling. :)

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                                  You're going to fail in the long term because you've bought into the fitness-industry-myths. No industry works to put itself out of business, if what the fitness industry told you about weight loss worked then they'd be doing just that, so everything they tell you is a lie. Lies you (and from the replies, every other person on this thread) believe, so you are, I'm afraid, doomed to fail. Think about it...if losing weight or maintaining a healthy weight was such a complex balance of what you eat and chemical interactions then why aren't the intelligent nations healthy and the stupid nations fat? Why do you only get an obesity crisis in countries where manual labour is rare and food is in abundance?

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                                  F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                  You're going to fail in the long term because you've bought into the fitness-industry-myths

                                  But I am not doing any 'fitness' so I cant have.

                                  F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                  doomed to fail.

                                  I am dropping half a kilo a day. It works. It works for others, and it will work for me (In fact I have got down to 109 before doing the same diet) so you are wrong.

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                                    I got up to 189 lbs and saw my dad ( who at one time must have hit 250+) coming in the mirror, so I went low carb. Yippy down to 160. It just melted off. When you starve you body of carbs I has no choice but to convert that fat into energy. I found out that is was carbs I really liked all along. :-D

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                                    Munchies_Matt
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                                    Yep. It works. Plain as that.

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                                    • M Munchies_Matt

                                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                      120 kg is enough to work as a bouncer

                                      I am 6 ft 4 (195 cm) and pretty hefty, I have a 120cm chest measurement for example, but also fat. A gut. And it disgusts me. :( Yeah, kimchi too, any fermented stuff (except beer and wine) has good bacteria. And yeah, no takeaway. I dont like takeaway anyway, I can cook way better at home, better than most restaurants, easilly. Thats part of the reason I got so big, I love food, I love cooking, and I love wine.

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                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      it disgusts me. :(

                                      Any motivation will do :) And after a bit time you'll get new rewards to keep you motivated - like having to buy lots new pants :D --edit

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      I dont like takeaway anyway, I can cook way better at home, better than most restaurants, easilly.

                                      Never trust a skinny cook! But indeed, not very helpfull if you can cook great.

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                      • M Munchies_Matt

                                        F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                        You're going to fail in the long term because you've bought into the fitness-industry-myths

                                        But I am not doing any 'fitness' so I cant have.

                                        F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                        doomed to fail.

                                        I am dropping half a kilo a day. It works. It works for others, and it will work for me (In fact I have got down to 109 before doing the same diet) so you are wrong.

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                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        But I am not doing any 'fitness' so I cant have.

                                        "Fitness industry" meaning the "health and fitness industry" so not just exercise but diet too.

                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        I am dropping half a kilo a day. It works.

                                        Probably not for the reasons you think though, and I said you'd fail in the long-term. When your weight loss stops, and even returns, you'll turn to the same sources to get a different set of lies and you'll then think "ah, so *this* is the right way to do it", and when that ultimately fails you'll repeat the process. Why do you think so many "new" diets come out and why the advice changes on a weekly basis? To fool you into thinking something new or different has been discovered, to fool you into thinking the fault was the fault of the last process you followed but *this one* will be better. You will continue on that treadmill endlessly, always repeating your mistakes. 1) Eat less 2) Move more 3) Win "Hey look, I've stopped going to Dominos and Burger King and I've lost some weight...the only possible explanation for that is because I'm eating fewer carbs".

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                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          But I am not doing any 'fitness' so I cant have.

                                          "Fitness industry" meaning the "health and fitness industry" so not just exercise but diet too.

                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          I am dropping half a kilo a day. It works.

                                          Probably not for the reasons you think though, and I said you'd fail in the long-term. When your weight loss stops, and even returns, you'll turn to the same sources to get a different set of lies and you'll then think "ah, so *this* is the right way to do it", and when that ultimately fails you'll repeat the process. Why do you think so many "new" diets come out and why the advice changes on a weekly basis? To fool you into thinking something new or different has been discovered, to fool you into thinking the fault was the fault of the last process you followed but *this one* will be better. You will continue on that treadmill endlessly, always repeating your mistakes. 1) Eat less 2) Move more 3) Win "Hey look, I've stopped going to Dominos and Burger King and I've lost some weight...the only possible explanation for that is because I'm eating fewer carbs".

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                                          Munchies_Matt
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                                          F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                          Eat less

                                          That is what I am doing. Why so negative?

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