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  • E Eytukan

    Does it work like a piece of cake in your car? Reverse gear was a pain in my last car. (Manual transmission) Just in few days of use, I noticed the reverse gear shift doesn't engage in one attempt. I'd have to disengage, move the car by few inches and then try again then, it works. When I raised this issue with the dealer, he said, shifting reverse gears need some "knack" :| and this is how it is! After years of usage, at one point, it became so worse. Then I called to the service department and explained the problem. Well, they came to the point straight. It would need some minor replacement and it might cost $400. What the heck, I've been complaining this right from day one on a brand new car. & I had a different response. I just totally dislike this pattern Something looks like a problem for you from day one & the other party never recognizes it & when the problem gets severe, they suggest a solution straight without looking at the history of this complaints & responses. :doh: Okay, I took it easy, I did not go for the $400 replacement, I tweaked up my "knack" for reverse-gear shifts and ensured I live with it Long enough till I sold it back to the same manufacturer. Yup they do exchange customers old cars for new ones. Now, I have a brand new car. Got it after exchanging my old one. It's different model but from the same manufacturer. It's just few weeks old. And now I'm seeing the same problem again. :omg: The reverse gear doesn't engage at first attempt. It takes me to rock the back and forth and try again. :(( :(( . Does reverse gears in this universe work this way? Or I'm just alone here with my curse of the reverse gears? I think I'll have to learn a new "knack" for this car now. WTH!! :wtf:

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    Chris Maunder
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    Reverse gears often don't have synchro so you need to ensure the gears have spun down before you engage. If you're in neutral, you've paused a second or so, and then put it in gear gently it should go in fine. That's what they are designed to do, after all. Sounds like either your gearbox needs some work or you just have a finicky gearbox.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      Its a funny thing, in Europe almost all cars are manual. (In fact the car license is different for an automatic, if you pass on an auto, you cant drive a manual legally)

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      It depends on the country I think, I never heard of it and in Italy it's definetely not like this (that I know 100% sure).

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        It depends on the country I think, I never heard of it and in Italy it's definetely not like this (that I know 100% sure).

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        Yeah, re the license I was talking about the UK.

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        • N Nish Nishant

          This is a culture shock for many immigrants to the US (from Europe and Asia). To see that 95% of the country drives automatics :-)

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          Gary Wheeler
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          At one time, an automatic transmission was considered a 'luxury' add-on that was fairly expensive - 10% or more of the vehicle price. Nowadays manual transmission isn't even an option on most vehicles, except for sports cars like the Ford Mustang, Chevrolet Camaro, Mazda Miata, etc. If I have a choice I will always drive a stick. Living in Ohio with the crappy road conditions during the winter, an automatic doesn't give you the control you have with a manual transmission.

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            At one time, an automatic transmission was considered a 'luxury' add-on that was fairly expensive - 10% or more of the vehicle price. Nowadays manual transmission isn't even an option on most vehicles, except for sports cars like the Ford Mustang, Chevrolet Camaro, Mazda Miata, etc. If I have a choice I will always drive a stick. Living in Ohio with the crappy road conditions during the winter, an automatic doesn't give you the control you have with a manual transmission.

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            Nish Nishant
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            I drove manuals in India but since I left, I've been an automatic only guy. The last time I visited India, I did not even drive (not because of the manual issue but because I could not handle the traffic chaos).

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            • N Nish Nishant

              What model car is this?

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              Eytukan
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              Suzuki Scross

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                Did he call it an automatic? Does he even know the difference! :)

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                Eytukan
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                Lol yes though I'm aware of the Automatic gears and it's available too here in India, with higher variants. I always felt manual transmission gives me better control. I tried AT once, I felt like something missing in my driving experience. may be I got used to MTs much. Yes in the original post I did not mention it'd AT or MT, initially. As I assumed everyone would take it as MT by default. :)

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Reverse gears often don't have synchro so you need to ensure the gears have spun down before you engage. If you're in neutral, you've paused a second or so, and then put it in gear gently it should go in fine. That's what they are designed to do, after all. Sounds like either your gearbox needs some work or you just have a finicky gearbox.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  :thumbsup:

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                  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                    I have the same thing with my manual Maruti Alto K10.

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                    Eytukan
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                    Cheers! :D

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      In just about every manual transmission car I've owned, I've had to double-clutch before shifting into reverse. I was amused when someone noticed that once and said "wow, who taught you that???" It seems to be esoteric knowledge. :laugh:

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                      Eytukan
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                      :) I think everybody has learnt their own trick with Reverse gears!

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                      • E Eytukan

                        Lol yes though I'm aware of the Automatic gears and it's available too here in India, with higher variants. I always felt manual transmission gives me better control. I tried AT once, I felt like something missing in my driving experience. may be I got used to MTs much. Yes in the original post I did not mention it'd AT or MT, initially. As I assumed everyone would take it as MT by default. :)

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                        Yeah, though John had assumed you had an auto. They arent that common outside the US, I dont think Americans know that.

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                        • J Joan M

                          Never seen that with the cars I've driven... I drive 4 different cars in a normal basis and I've rented a lot of cars... None of them has the problems you depict. In the worst case and only some times, the gear is not getting in at first attempt. Just removing the gear, releasing the clutch and pressing it again to put the gear again works...

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                          DerekT P
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                          Don't recall ever having had the slightest problem selecting reverse in any car in the past 30 years (all manual). I don't recall anyone else ever mentioning a problem, either. (Here in the UK where almost everyone drives a manual transmission). If you buy something and it doesn't work properly, then take it back and get a refund.

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                          • E Eytukan

                            Does it work like a piece of cake in your car? Reverse gear was a pain in my last car. (Manual transmission) Just in few days of use, I noticed the reverse gear shift doesn't engage in one attempt. I'd have to disengage, move the car by few inches and then try again then, it works. When I raised this issue with the dealer, he said, shifting reverse gears need some "knack" :| and this is how it is! After years of usage, at one point, it became so worse. Then I called to the service department and explained the problem. Well, they came to the point straight. It would need some minor replacement and it might cost $400. What the heck, I've been complaining this right from day one on a brand new car. & I had a different response. I just totally dislike this pattern Something looks like a problem for you from day one & the other party never recognizes it & when the problem gets severe, they suggest a solution straight without looking at the history of this complaints & responses. :doh: Okay, I took it easy, I did not go for the $400 replacement, I tweaked up my "knack" for reverse-gear shifts and ensured I live with it Long enough till I sold it back to the same manufacturer. Yup they do exchange customers old cars for new ones. Now, I have a brand new car. Got it after exchanging my old one. It's different model but from the same manufacturer. It's just few weeks old. And now I'm seeing the same problem again. :omg: The reverse gear doesn't engage at first attempt. It takes me to rock the back and forth and try again. :(( :(( . Does reverse gears in this universe work this way? Or I'm just alone here with my curse of the reverse gears? I think I'll have to learn a new "knack" for this car now. WTH!! :wtf:

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                            Don't recall ever having had the slightest problem selecting reverse in any car in the past 30 years (all manual). I don't recall anyone else ever mentioning a problem, either. (Here in the UK where almost everyone drives a manual transmission). If you buy something and it doesn't work properly, then take it back and get a refund.

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Ah ok, must be a new model there.

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                                Ah ok, must be a new model there.

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                                Eytukan
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                                It's been there since 2015, but the facelift model was just released few months back. It feels like a decent car.

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