The Code Project Visual Studio.NET Article Drive

AlexMarbus

I'm confused :confused: Why are we being motivated to use software/libraries that are not even officialy released yet? Or am I having a wrong point of view? -- Alex Marbus www.marbus.net

Peter Pearson

So that we can learn how to use it and develop for it in detail, so when it does become available, we won't have to start from scratch, we'll know it already (at least in theory). Cheers, Peter Pearson

Lost User

Or is this a payoff Chris and David / Dundas have to make for their frequent trips to M$ (No offense, just kidding!)

NormDroid

At first I was really keen on the idea of .NET The more I think about it, well it seems to me its really aimed at the VB community. I am paraniod? X| BTW does any body know when Beta2 is available, just curious... Norm

Lost User

What are you complaining? If you do write a .NET article (the content doesn't matter), it will be selected as CodeProject Article Of The Week. :) :) :)

Lost User

It seems to me that Chris's contest is not strictly about .NET. He says you can submit articles pertaining to any of the new features including those dealing with MFC, ATL and ATL Server. I'm not much into VB either but C# sure is sweet.

MickAB

A1> It's an fiendish plot for worldwide domination. A2> Just part of Microsoft's strategy of encouraging developer's to move to .NET ....wait a minute, isn't A2 the same as A1!!!!!!!! :eek:

Amit Dey

absolutely! These MS guys want everybody to move over to .NET. This is a bit of paranoia that we all share....not everybody wanna be a VB guy anyway! Seriously, I don't think a lot of developers will consider .NET as a serious option until it is officially released. :)

AlexMarbus

I was not complaining. I never complain. I was just wondering :) I'm not saying that it's a bad idea.. because it is not a bad idea at all, I was just curious why MS would reward us for using MFC7/C# in this rather early stage. Or does this mean they are having a stable version ready to get pushed on the market? Anyway, still :confused: -- Alex Marbus www.marbus.net

Lost User

I think the Beta 2 will be out in May/June time frame.

Jim A Johnson

> Or is this a payoff Chris and David / Dundas have to make for their frequent trips to M$ (No offense, just kidding!) I don't see any reason that such a stament needs to be a joke, or even interpreted as offensive. It's clear that the CodeProject is not an objective, detached agency when it comes to Microsoft - the frequent visits to the MS "campus", the interviews with MS employees, and the like all indicate the contrary. But I'm not sure it's an entirely bad thing - how many WIndows Developer's Journals do we need? To stay on topic, though - I think it's early for a .NET programming contest. So far, most of the enthusiasm for .NET seems to be internal to Microsoft. Let them get the technology on its feet this time, before we swarm to support it.

Christian Graus

Because M$ says it, we better do it, or we might get left behind ( I'm guessing ). Me, I'm not involved in anything webcentric, so I can afford to sit back and wait for the dust to settle to see if .Net is a good idea like MS Office, or a good idea like BOB.... Christian The content of this post is not necessarily the opinion of my yadda yadda yadda. To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.

David Cunningham

Man, how the tide changes. I remember seeing a post on CodeGuru about a year ago that said that CodeProject was a cool site but pretty anti-microsoft :) So what serves this community best? Tight ties to the company that makes *all* the tools we use, involvement from guys like Walter Sullivan and a host of other Microsofties that lurk here, or a quiet little unconnected site ? My $.02 is that in the end it will serve the community here tremendously to have a voice with Microsoft, and for Chris, and I, and everyone else who supports Codeproject to keep CodeProject top of mind with Microsoft. .Net is coming guys, it really is. Like all the other tools at our disposal it may or not make sense for every job we undertake, but it will certainly be an important part of being a programmer in the Windows world. Guaranteed. The frequent trips to Microsoft serve many purposes. Certainly MS is trying to make .Net stick, and they roll out all the movers and shakers for that. But in the midst of that we get to arrange to have Walter Sullivan on CP to discuss ATL and MFC, and Ronald Laeremans to talk about STL, PTS and compiler issues, and more. I'd bet that the vast majority of people who come to CodeProject now feel that they have more of a voice with Microsoft than they did a year ago. MS is here, and they're listening to what you say. I think that's a big plus and a direct result of the effort that has gone into building a relationship between CodeProject and Microsoft. David

Chris Maunder

Because it's coming! The new MFC and ATL libraries are here, we can use the new compilers, and the beta 1 VS.NET is totally useable. .NET is still in beta but that isn't stopping hundreds of companies from working on .NET components, or hundreds of sites from moving to ASP.NET. If I didn't make an effort to make you guys ad girls more aware of the potential benefits of .NET - and have a little bit of fun at the same time - then I would start getting 'Is CodeProject going soft' emails. The competition is NOT simply a C# or managed C++ comp - it's a competition about everything that is in the new package and I for one would very much like to see some MFC and ATL articles based on the new library. C# and VB.NET have had way too much of the limelight. cheers, Chris Maunder