Windows Update requires 5 gb free.
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I will tell you that Microsoft can be so stupid. I have a laptop with an SSd of around 28GB and then a large hard drive. Well Microsoft update wants an additional 3.51 gb on my ssd which has 1.38 gb free. To get everything to fit on this small (LOL) ssd I have a bunch of applications installed on the hard drive including Visual Studio and Microsoft office. The only way I could free up space is to uninstall all the major applications. Not really interested enough in that to do it. What is Microsoft thinking to require about 5 gb free to install an update!!!!!
Clifford Nelson wrote:
I have a laptop with an SSd of around 28GB and then a large hard drive.
Windows 10 install says it needs 20g for the 64 bit install. My 'Windows' directory has 19g in it. If I only had 28g and I was going to put Windows 10 on it then that would be the only thing I would put on it.
Clifford Nelson wrote:
What is Microsoft thinking to require about 5 gb free to install an update!!!!!
Space for the download itself, then it needs temporary space to expand that update. Can't you just get a bigger SSD - wouldn't it be time for that anyways? There are also instructions on installing it from a different hard drive. Myself the SSD I have is 500g and I have had to clean that up recently since it was starting to get full.
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Clifford Nelson wrote:
I have a laptop with an SSd of around 28GB and then a large hard drive.
Windows 10 install says it needs 20g for the 64 bit install. My 'Windows' directory has 19g in it. If I only had 28g and I was going to put Windows 10 on it then that would be the only thing I would put on it.
Clifford Nelson wrote:
What is Microsoft thinking to require about 5 gb free to install an update!!!!!
Space for the download itself, then it needs temporary space to expand that update. Can't you just get a bigger SSD - wouldn't it be time for that anyways? There are also instructions on installing it from a different hard drive. Myself the SSD I have is 500g and I have had to clean that up recently since it was starting to get full.
I have considered it. Of course then I have to get windows installed again, and not sure the impact since don't know the process for doing the exchange. Obviously not happy with having to move things over to the hard drive...Microsoft does not do a good job of making it easy to work with a secondary drive, and it should.
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Clifford Nelson wrote:
an SSd of around 28GB
These days, that's not even close to being enough. My PC came with a 128Gb SSD and a 2Tb HDD back in 2014. Thanks to all the stuff that will only install on the C: drive, it wasn't long before I had to replace it with a 500Gb one. Usage is currently at 176Gb. And yes, I can remember the days when a 28Mb HDD seemed enormous! :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Yes when I got the laptop I was not expecting to start running into space problems just putting on Office. After all I had 28 gb on the SSD...
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I have considered it. Of course then I have to get windows installed again, and not sure the impact since don't know the process for doing the exchange. Obviously not happy with having to move things over to the hard drive...Microsoft does not do a good job of making it easy to work with a secondary drive, and it should.
Clifford Nelson wrote:
Of course then I have to get windows installed again, and not sure the impact since don't know the process for doing the exchange.
There are tools which can move your entire OS disk to a new disk. I used the free version of AOMEI Partition Assistant to move from my old 128Gb SSD to my new 500Gb SSD without any problems. :)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Are we talking about one of the monthly cumulative updates, or an OS upgrade (such as moving Windows 10 1709 to 1803)? If the former - couple of suggestions: Delete volume shadow copies with "vssadmin delete shadows /all" (from an admin prompt). Run cleanmgr.exe (under %windir%\system32) as an admin, as that presents more options. Store the update installer EXE itself on your larger drive and run it from there. If you don't have it and you're trying to do this from Windows Update (downloading files on the fly, which doesn't ask you where to put them), get the full installer instead from http://catalog.update.microsoft.com. I'm assuming you have the KB number of the update you're trying to install. Temporarily (permanently?) remap your Documents/Downloads/Pictures/Videos folders to the larger drive (if they represent more space than the installer wants), install the update, then remap the folders. Remap %TEMP% to your larger drive before running the installer. Change it back when done. If I can keep my HP Stream 7 tablet with Windows 10 up to date each month (with only 16GB of storage, total), there's little reason you can't do the same with a 32GB SSD and a second larger drive.
These are great suggestions! I am going to keep a copy of these. :)
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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You may have discovered the way to finally opt out of win10 updates since M$ forces them on machines which are set to ignore them. Just fill up your boot drive with useless files and you're good to go. :rolleyes:
That's a great idea!
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I have considered it. Of course then I have to get windows installed again, and not sure the impact since don't know the process for doing the exchange. Obviously not happy with having to move things over to the hard drive...Microsoft does not do a good job of making it easy to work with a secondary drive, and it should.
If you buy an SSD from Crucial, they include a free copy of Acronis disk cloning software, and it works great. It's a very simple matter to move everything to the new drive.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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These are great suggestions! I am going to keep a copy of these. :)
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I will tell you that Microsoft can be so stupid. I have a laptop with an SSd of around 28GB and then a large hard drive. Well Microsoft update wants an additional 3.51 gb on my ssd which has 1.38 gb free. To get everything to fit on this small (LOL) ssd I have a bunch of applications installed on the hard drive including Visual Studio and Microsoft office. The only way I could free up space is to uninstall all the major applications. Not really interested enough in that to do it. What is Microsoft thinking to require about 5 gb free to install an update!!!!!
Assuming it's the big upgrade (eg 1709 to 1803), there's a way to have it use an external drive (or maybe your HDD) instead of freeing up space on your OS drive. One of my coworkers recently did this to update W10 on a mini-PC with a 32GB SSD. The really terrible part is that the reason why so many bottom end systems come with only a 32GB eMMC drive (basically a soldered SD card) is that the cheapest OS licensing tier MS offers has among other max system reqs an SSD that small and crappy. Lifting that single req to 64GB would probably eliminate 90% of the not enough disk space pain that Windows Update currently causes.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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When the first windows 10 tablets came out, Microsoft specified 16gb as the minimum size of the C: drive. Of course, when the first big update came, there wasn't enough room on the drive for the update to work, even on a clean, factory reset device. So it would keep starting the update, failing, revert, and try again...
Microsoft windows group is pretty screwed up. They did not take advantaged of the PDA period to create a good implementation of Windows for small devices. If they had they would have had the phone market today tied up in a bow. Windows group has never been a good group. 95 had to be pushed out the door with problems still in the OS. Windows group became extremely political and now Microsoft is losing thanks to Windows group and their stupidity. Office is not much better.
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Are we talking about one of the monthly cumulative updates, or an OS upgrade (such as moving Windows 10 1709 to 1803)? If the former - couple of suggestions: Delete volume shadow copies with "vssadmin delete shadows /all" (from an admin prompt). Run cleanmgr.exe (under %windir%\system32) as an admin, as that presents more options. Store the update installer EXE itself on your larger drive and run it from there. If you don't have it and you're trying to do this from Windows Update (downloading files on the fly, which doesn't ask you where to put them), get the full installer instead from http://catalog.update.microsoft.com. I'm assuming you have the KB number of the update you're trying to install. Temporarily (permanently?) remap your Documents/Downloads/Pictures/Videos folders to the larger drive (if they represent more space than the installer wants), install the update, then remap the folders. Remap %TEMP% to your larger drive before running the installer. Change it back when done. If I can keep my HP Stream 7 tablet with Windows 10 up to date each month (with only 16GB of storage, total), there's little reason you can't do the same with a 32GB SSD and a second larger drive.
Quite an effort for this. Would think Microsoft would make it easier to extend across drives, but the Windows team pretty much sucks anyway.
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Clifford Nelson wrote:
an SSd of around 28GB
These days, that's not even close to being enough. My PC came with a 128Gb SSD and a 2Tb HDD back in 2014. Thanks to all the stuff that will only install on the C: drive, it wasn't long before I had to replace it with a 500Gb one. Usage is currently at 176Gb. And yes, I can remember the days when a 28Mb HDD seemed enormous! :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Finally ordered an 250 gb when I lost license for Visual Studio and had to drop back to the community edition. Now cannot get Visual Studio installed again. Guess could go back to a clean system but decided to do that with a new SSC
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Clifford Nelson wrote:
I have a laptop with an SSd of around 28GB and then a large hard drive.
Windows 10 install says it needs 20g for the 64 bit install. My 'Windows' directory has 19g in it. If I only had 28g and I was going to put Windows 10 on it then that would be the only thing I would put on it.
Clifford Nelson wrote:
What is Microsoft thinking to require about 5 gb free to install an update!!!!!
Space for the download itself, then it needs temporary space to expand that update. Can't you just get a bigger SSD - wouldn't it be time for that anyways? There are also instructions on installing it from a different hard drive. Myself the SSD I have is 500g and I have had to clean that up recently since it was starting to get full.
Yes finally bit the bullet, and ordered 250 gb SSD. Microsoft should have handled this problem automatically but they Window team sucks. Worked for them and it is so political. Never been on a Microsoft team that was so political.
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Quite an effort for this. Would think Microsoft would make it easier to extend across drives, but the Windows team pretty much sucks anyway.
