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Visual Studio 2017... express or community?

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  • G gervacleto

    The difference is that you cannot use Community Edition if your Team is bigger than 5 people, or the revenue of the company in which you are using Visual Studio is more then 1 million dollars/Year

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    Rage
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    Okay, makes sense, I missed that part. Thanks.

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

      Rage wrote:

      What's the point of the professional version if you can get alsmost the same for free :confused: :confused:

      Yes, *I* could get almost the same for free, but not large corporate organizations (where the money is). Scroll down to the "usage" section here: Free IDE and Developer Tools | Visual Studio Community[^] Usage: In enterprise organizations (meaning those with >250 PCs or >$1 Million US Dollars in annual revenue), no use is permitted beyond the open source, academic research, and classroom learning environment scenarios described above.

      Rage wrote:

      And more generally speaking, what is the point of giving out the IDE for free ??

      To build a strong user base. The more individuals use it, the more they get accustomed to, and comfortable with Visual Studio. And when these developers go to work for a company, they'll ask for Visual Studio because they're used to it and are most productive building software with it. Now the company however has to purchase professional or enterprise licenses, and it will go on forever.

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      Rage
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      You are right about the user base, I never thought about it that way. Plus (as stated in my other answer above) I missed the "usage" section. Thanks !

      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      • J j snooze

        Community is express now. I believe express ended with 2013. 2015 and 2017 both have community editions with are the free versions. Free is the best price.

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        RaviBee
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        j snooze wrote:

        Community is express now.

        Mine says 2017 Community. /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        • J j snooze

          Community is express now. I believe express ended with 2013. 2015 and 2017 both have community editions with are the free versions. Free is the best price.

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          Kirk Wood
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          You have that backwards. What was Express is now Community

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          • R Rage

            Wow, based on this, the difference between community and professional is really small. What's the point of the professional version if you can get alsmost the same for free :confused::confused: And more generally speaking, what is the point of giving out the IDE for free ??

            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            Kirk Wood
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            Not sure based on the charts if this is still true. But it used to be that the free version didn't allow add-ons such as ReSharper. While I love the use of it, I got along fine without it as well.

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            • N Nelek

              Hi guys, I was looking for the visual studio express 2017 and the site of Microsoft is offering me the visual studio 2017 community. Have you used it? Where are the differences? I am interested on practice mainly with C++, C# and WPF is it better?

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Lost User
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              Just downloaded the community version and installed it again. It says that the license is expired. So I recommend the SharpDevelop IDE. At least it works and is free. :thumbsup:

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                Just downloaded the community version and installed it again. It says that the license is expired. So I recommend the SharpDevelop IDE. At least it works and is free. :thumbsup:

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                Nelek
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                Thanks for the warning and the alternative solution. I will still give a try to Community since in the new job I will probably be using the enterprise.

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                • N Nelek

                  Thanks for the warning and the alternative solution. I will still give a try to Community since in the new job I will probably be using the enterprise.

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  Lost User
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                  Obvious choice, if you have to use it at work :) Install in a VM; doesn't use that much extra resources, and keeps your registry clean if you accidentally install a trial-version.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  • K Kirk Wood

                    You have that backwards. What was Express is now Community

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                    j snooze
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                    ah yes...I"m sorry late in the day post.

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                    • N Nelek

                      My last download was the 2012 Express... let's see. Thanks for your comment

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      j snooze
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                      as some pointed out, I had that backwards. Community is the new express not the other way around. Sorry, late day post, my brain was in quittin time mode.

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                      • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                        j snooze wrote:

                        Community is express now.

                        Mine says 2017 Community. /ravi

                        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                        j snooze
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                        yeah, I mixed the two, I know its community now. Thats what I get for a full day of using my noggin' and then trying to post intelligently near quittin' time.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Obvious choice, if you have to use it at work :) Install in a VM; doesn't use that much extra resources, and keeps your registry clean if you accidentally install a trial-version.

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          Nelek
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                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                          Install in a VM;

                          I have it, but I am installing in main pc this time... I am anyways going to ghost back my previous image and update it soon.

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          • J j snooze

                            Community is express now. I believe express ended with 2013. 2015 and 2017 both have community editions with are the free versions. Free is the best price.

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                            Dr Walt Fair PE
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                            j snooze wrote:

                            Free is the best price.

                            But I think that means you can't get a discount!

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                            Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                            • L Lost User

                              Just downloaded the community version and installed it again. It says that the license is expired. So I recommend the SharpDevelop IDE. At least it works and is free. :thumbsup:

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                              WPKF
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                              The 'license' need to be renewed periodically although it is free. Basically you just login your Microsoft account.

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                              • N Nelek

                                Hi guys, I was looking for the visual studio express 2017 and the site of Microsoft is offering me the visual studio 2017 community. Have you used it? Where are the differences? I am interested on practice mainly with C++, C# and WPF is it better?

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                WPKF
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                                Community (same feature as Professional) replaces "Express", which has different version for Web/Desktop..etc. Community limitation is number of user within a "Team". If your team (or company) has more than 5 developers, you cannot use Community to build your applications. "5" is the magic number to Microsoft "TFS online" too.

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                                • W WPKF

                                  The 'license' need to be renewed periodically although it is free. Basically you just login your Microsoft account.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  I don't have one; I don't want a subscription (even if it is free).

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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