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    The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

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      The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

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      Jon Newman
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      Someone will just make a better fileshare app. It happened when Napster shut down. So if the RIAA do something to the kazaa network, another kid will make another app.


      "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
      - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
      "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
      - Anon


      Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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        The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

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        Aren't they making enough money already? I see very few musicians angry over mp3 sharing but the RIAA are going apeshit. How much is enough? If they really wanted to make more, they could utilize mp3s to make money. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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          Aren't they making enough money already? I see very few musicians angry over mp3 sharing but the RIAA are going apeshit. How much is enough? If they really wanted to make more, they could utilize mp3s to make money. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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          BTW, it's not that I actually approve of stealing copyrighted material, it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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            Someone will just make a better fileshare app. It happened when Napster shut down. So if the RIAA do something to the kazaa network, another kid will make another app.


            "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
            - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
            "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
            - Anon


            Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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            Bruce Duncan
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            Jonny Newman wrote: So if the RIAA do something to the kazaa network, another kid will make another app The RIAA execs must have enjoyed playing whack-a-mole as kids.

            Clones are people two.

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              Jonny Newman wrote: So if the RIAA do something to the kazaa network, another kid will make another app The RIAA execs must have enjoyed playing whack-a-mole as kids.

              Clones are people two.

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              Jon Newman
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              Thats sig material :-D


              "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
              - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
              "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
              - Anon


              Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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                Thats sig material :-D


                "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
                - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
                "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
                - Anon


                Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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                Brad Jennings
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                I agree:) Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                  BTW, it's not that I actually approve of stealing copyrighted material, it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                  Brad Jennings wrote: it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Exactly, I've downloaded....say three MP3's this week. I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? They still make their money.


                  "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
                  - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
                  "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
                  - Anon


                  Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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                    The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

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                    Kazaa is good because it forces the recording industry to deal with the issue of the Internet. If they don't want their content stolen, they need to make a legal way for people to download it. Some of the pay services available now (most notably Rhapsody) are coming close to providing a bonafide improvement to what's available through p2p services like Kazaa, not to mention being legal. This would NEVER have happened without p2p services like Napster and Kazaa.

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                      Brad Jennings wrote: it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Exactly, I've downloaded....say three MP3's this week. I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? They still make their money.


                      "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
                      - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
                      "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
                      - Anon


                      Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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                      Brad Jennings
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                      Jonny Newman wrote: I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? I guess they lose out when somebody downloads mp3s and finds out that an album is crap. Of course, if they didn't put crap CDs on the market that wouldn't be a problem. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                        Jonny Newman wrote: I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? I guess they lose out when somebody downloads mp3s and finds out that an album is crap. Of course, if they didn't put crap CDs on the market that wouldn't be a problem. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                        Brad Jennings wrote: if they didn't put crap CDs on the market that wouldn't be a problem. I can name a few :-) Because i'm using dial up, I tend to think about the mp3s I download. So its normally if I hear it on MTV and sorta like it, i'll download it and then if I really like it, i'll buy it. But like I say, if I don't like it, i rarely download it.


                        "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
                        - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
                        "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
                        - Anon


                        Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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                          Brad Jennings wrote: it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Exactly, I've downloaded....say three MP3's this week. I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? They still make their money.


                          "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
                          - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
                          "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
                          - Anon


                          Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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                          Because the majority of people aren't as honest as you. Study after study may support what you say, but let's be honest here: why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

                          Jon Sagara
                          They gave me penicillin because I have sniffilis. -- A friend's response when asked about his trip to the doctor

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                            Because the majority of people aren't as honest as you. Study after study may support what you say, but let's be honest here: why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

                            Jon Sagara
                            They gave me penicillin because I have sniffilis. -- A friend's response when asked about his trip to the doctor

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                            Jon Sagara wrote: why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? Depends if sheep are out of season.


                            "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
                            - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
                            "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
                            - Anon


                            Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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                              The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

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                              Would this be a bad time to mention that I run a Bearshare[^] server 24/7 ? :~


                              There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.

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                                Someone will just make a better fileshare app. It happened when Napster shut down. So if the RIAA do something to the kazaa network, another kid will make another app.


                                "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
                                - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
                                "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
                                - Anon


                                Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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                                Jonny Newman wrote: Someone will just make a better fileshare app. Long live supply and demand!!!:jig::jig: :-D Later,
                                JoeSox
                                www.humanaiproject.org "This life is more than just a read thru"[lyrics^] Can't Stop - Red Hot Chili Peppers

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                                  Because the majority of people aren't as honest as you. Study after study may support what you say, but let's be honest here: why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

                                  Jon Sagara
                                  They gave me penicillin because I have sniffilis. -- A friend's response when asked about his trip to the doctor

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                                  Ted Ferenc
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                                  Years back there were similar arguments about casette tapes. Now who in their right mind would buy expensive bottled water when it is free from a tap?


                                  If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                                    Years back there were similar arguments about casette tapes. Now who in their right mind would buy expensive bottled water when it is free from a tap?


                                    If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                                    Ted Ferenc wrote: Now who in their right mind would buy expensive bottled water when it is free from a tap? :-D I'm going to sue you for water piracy. ;P

                                    Jon Sagara
                                    They gave me penicillin because I have sniffilis. -- A friend's response when asked about his trip to the doctor

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                                      BTW, it's not that I actually approve of stealing copyrighted material, it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                      The reason why people feel the need to steal is because all these are heavily overpriced. You can't buy all the music that comes out. Obviously, there are people who are so heavily into music that they want to hear anything that comes out. Music industry will have to make it really cheap. Otherwise, despite all the "artificial" barriers, people will still find ways to get pirated stuff. Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                        The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

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                                        If anyone hacked into a legally operated computer, then they will have FBI charge them as a terrorist. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                          The reason why people feel the need to steal is because all these are heavily overpriced. You can't buy all the music that comes out. Obviously, there are people who are so heavily into music that they want to hear anything that comes out. Music industry will have to make it really cheap. Otherwise, despite all the "artificial" barriers, people will still find ways to get pirated stuff. Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                          Thomas George wrote: Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? Good point, two wrongs don't make a right. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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