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  • Z ZurdoDev

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    Seriously?

    Yes. As you can see from other responses, many people have no problems with Microsoft.

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    Do you use windows 10 or later versions of MS Office?

    I have used every version of Windows and Office since '95. But I noticed you did not give any specific examples. I'll give you one. Windows 8. That was terrible. But they quickly rectified that. So, no, I don't see what you see which is why I wanted specific examples.

    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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    ZurdoDev wrote:

    But I noticed you did not give any specific examples.

    I don't have a week to spare to cover them all, but what I might do, if you continue to feign blindness, is stick up a web page showing a few of the most annoying examples. As I say, these won't be examples from VS, because the developers don't sh1t in their own pond, only in everyone else's -- so devs don't suffer the same ridiculous productivity degradations as everyone else.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      ZurdoDev wrote:

      But I noticed you did not give any specific examples.

      I don't have a week to spare to cover them all, but what I might do, if you continue to feign blindness, is stick up a web page showing a few of the most annoying examples. As I say, these won't be examples from VS, because the developers don't sh1t in their own pond, only in everyone else's -- so devs don't suffer the same ridiculous productivity degradations as everyone else.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      ZurdoDev
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      Mark_Wallace wrote:

      f you continue to feign blindness

      So, because I don't have the same experiences as you means I am blind? That tells me all I need to know about your position. Good day.

      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      • Z ZurdoDev

        Mark_Wallace wrote:

        f you continue to feign blindness

        So, because I don't have the same experiences as you means I am blind? That tells me all I need to know about your position. Good day.

        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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        Translation: "Hell, this guy's a good writer, and he knows computers! If he starts putting up web pages slamming the ****-ups that MS has been making over the last ten years, we'll be in sh1t street! Better end the discussion, quick!"

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          Translation: "Hell, this guy's a good writer, and he knows computers! If he starts putting up web pages slamming the ****-ups that MS has been making over the last ten years, we'll be in sh1t street! Better end the discussion, quick!"

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          ZurdoDev
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          You deal in emotions. I deal in facts. Sorry, they are incompatible in this case.

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            You deal in emotions. I deal in facts. Sorry, they are incompatible in this case.

            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            Very amusing. I'm sure that your colleagues appreciate the way you treat them. Unfortunately, I'm one step further up the emotionless ladder than developers; I'm a Physicist. As a person who takes a clinical view of everything (but who can describe anything in any colour you like), I can say that ten and more years ago, MS was the best major software house in the world, and their products were the best products -- MS Word, in particular, was an incredible piece of software, that could handle almost everything. It had its bugs, sure, but we had faith that MS would fix them. And I fiercely defended MS in on-line discussions, against people who really were just "haters", with no real cause for their vitriol. But, instead of fixing the huge backlog of bugs, MS just wrote them off (check the history: tens of thousands of bugs were just closed unfixed, when MS added the windows 8 shell over the top of the previous version -- and they did the same with all the MS Office bugs: they just deleted them). Windows 10 is just plain awful. It still has all the bugs that have been brought forward from previous versions, and it introduces a ridiculously large amount of its own. E.g. have you tried to set up a network with Windows machines, lately? Probably not, because the people who are happy with windows 10 are the people who do damn all with computers -- and most developers fall into that category: they code, browse the Internet, and play games. That's trivial usage, compared to most business users. MS Office, the flagship of MS, is worse now than it has ever been. Everything is harder to do, and there are so many distractions built in that it's unbelievable. A huge number of productivity tools have disappeared (because they couldn't get them to work alongside the new "COOL!" features that no-one asked for or wants). An example of their mindlessness in building this "BEST WINDOWS EVAH!": Until I personally complained about it, the windows 10 on-screen keyboard was missing a number of "unimportant" keys (like F keys, and the Ctrl key!) -- but it did have thirty-odd pages of emojis! And, I'll tell you what: **** it, given your pathetically uninformed but arrogant attitude, I'm going to put together a few pages about how MS has decimated productivity in the workplace, and how its "focus" cr@p (which I'm sure you're proud of, because they moronically claim that it "increases productivity") doesn't do a damned thing to ameliorate the problem, because professionals don't have social media ap

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              Very amusing. I'm sure that your colleagues appreciate the way you treat them. Unfortunately, I'm one step further up the emotionless ladder than developers; I'm a Physicist. As a person who takes a clinical view of everything (but who can describe anything in any colour you like), I can say that ten and more years ago, MS was the best major software house in the world, and their products were the best products -- MS Word, in particular, was an incredible piece of software, that could handle almost everything. It had its bugs, sure, but we had faith that MS would fix them. And I fiercely defended MS in on-line discussions, against people who really were just "haters", with no real cause for their vitriol. But, instead of fixing the huge backlog of bugs, MS just wrote them off (check the history: tens of thousands of bugs were just closed unfixed, when MS added the windows 8 shell over the top of the previous version -- and they did the same with all the MS Office bugs: they just deleted them). Windows 10 is just plain awful. It still has all the bugs that have been brought forward from previous versions, and it introduces a ridiculously large amount of its own. E.g. have you tried to set up a network with Windows machines, lately? Probably not, because the people who are happy with windows 10 are the people who do damn all with computers -- and most developers fall into that category: they code, browse the Internet, and play games. That's trivial usage, compared to most business users. MS Office, the flagship of MS, is worse now than it has ever been. Everything is harder to do, and there are so many distractions built in that it's unbelievable. A huge number of productivity tools have disappeared (because they couldn't get them to work alongside the new "COOL!" features that no-one asked for or wants). An example of their mindlessness in building this "BEST WINDOWS EVAH!": Until I personally complained about it, the windows 10 on-screen keyboard was missing a number of "unimportant" keys (like F keys, and the Ctrl key!) -- but it did have thirty-odd pages of emojis! And, I'll tell you what: **** it, given your pathetically uninformed but arrogant attitude, I'm going to put together a few pages about how MS has decimated productivity in the workplace, and how its "focus" cr@p (which I'm sure you're proud of, because they moronically claim that it "increases productivity") doesn't do a damned thing to ameliorate the problem, because professionals don't have social media ap

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              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              I'm sure that your colleagues appreciate the way you treat them.

              More emotional judgement.

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              all the MS Office bugs: they just deleted them).

              Wait, are you suggesting there are no bugs in the code you have written? Again, you don't cite any specifics so I can't address specifics, but whatever bugs were deleted clearly are not impacting me or anyone else I know.

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Windows 10 is just plain awful

              More emotion and zero substance. If it is so plain awful, why are so many people saying they have no problem with it?

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Everything is harder to do,

              Again, no specifics. Let me show you how it's done. For example, I love in Outlook that when I go to include an attachment, the drop-down shows the last X number of files I've had open on my machine. That is a productivity improvement. Now that I gave you an emotionless example, maybe you can do the same? For example, the ribbon maybe? I was once like you (I hate to, but must admit it). Many eons ago when I went to a Microsoft event and saw what was coming, I hated the ribbon. Thought it was clunky and messy. My first reaction was "Dang, Microsoft, you idiots!" But then, since I am civilized, I started using the ribbon and after a little getting used to, found that it was much better in most cases. There were still some things hard to find though. But this was many, many years ago. Please don't tell me you're still upset about the ribbon? Who would know. You can't articulate the specifics of your complaints. By the way, Microsoft did a ton of research on the ribbon and have data to backup that it is more productive. It was not done to be cool. If so, they would have removed it right away as so many people (myself included) thought it was hideous at first.

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              arrogant attitude,

              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: All I have done is ask you for specifics because I don't see things the way you do. Dang, you are so sensitive. Chill out bro.

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              which I'm sure you're proud of

              More emotional judgement. Sad.

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              I'm

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