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  • L Lost User

    The bloke on the next desk to me uses a pocket calculator to add up lists of numbers that are contained in an Excel spreadsheet. I've tried telling him about the calculating abilities built into Excel but he won't listen and continues to use the pocket calculator (He says I've got this calculator I bought in 1990 so I'm going to continue to use it!). Now he's complaining that the batteries in the pocket calculator are running out... Oh well at least its Friday.

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    Sounds like he is a prime target to be replaced by somebody younger and more tech savvy.

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      Sounds like he is a prime target to be replaced by somebody younger and more tech savvy.

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      musefan wrote:

      Sounds like he is a prime target to be replaced by somebody younger and more tech savvy.

      "Tech savvy" and "Excel"? I would tend toward refuting the use of those two terms as if they are in any way connected.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        musefan wrote:

        Sounds like he is a prime target to be replaced by somebody younger and more tech savvy.

        "Tech savvy" and "Excel"? I would tend toward refuting the use of those two terms as if they are in any way connected.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Lost User
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        Excel is OK for what it does, but they do insist on using spreadsheets for database functions shared over multiple users here and then complaining when it doesn't work properly. Typically the complaint is that somebody has the spreadsheet file open and somebody else can't add a new item.

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        • L Lost User

          The bloke on the next desk to me uses a pocket calculator to add up lists of numbers that are contained in an Excel spreadsheet. I've tried telling him about the calculating abilities built into Excel but he won't listen and continues to use the pocket calculator (He says I've got this calculator I bought in 1990 so I'm going to continue to use it!). Now he's complaining that the batteries in the pocket calculator are running out... Oh well at least its Friday.

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          Lost User
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          I always use automatic calculation in my Excel spreadsheets. But I often cross check with paper and pencil.

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          • L Lost User

            Excel is OK for what it does, but they do insist on using spreadsheets for database functions shared over multiple users here and then complaining when it doesn't work properly. Typically the complaint is that somebody has the spreadsheet file open and somebody else can't add a new item.

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            Mark_Wallace
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            Yes, but bear in mind the first option they'd go for to replace Excel. As a long-term Access sufferer, I'd be hard pressed to decide which is worse.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • L Lost User

              I always use automatic calculation in my Excel spreadsheets. But I often cross check with paper and pencil.

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              Lost User
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              Paper and pencil, that's one step down from a calculator. I suggest you invest in a slide rule. :)

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              • L Lost User

                I always use automatic calculation in my Excel spreadsheets. But I often cross check with paper and pencil.

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                Just out of interest, what exactly are you cross checking? Is it Excel's ability to perform calculations, or your ability to select the right data/functions?

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                  Just out of interest, what exactly are you cross checking? Is it Excel's ability to perform calculations, or your ability to select the right data/functions?

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                  Just checking that the answer is what I expect. I often have to add items to list of figures and then (if I remember) do a copy down of the equation. So I like to know I have done all the steps necessary to get the right answer.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Excel is OK for what it does, but they do insist on using spreadsheets for database functions shared over multiple users here and then complaining when it doesn't work properly. Typically the complaint is that somebody has the spreadsheet file open and somebody else can't add a new item.

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                    musefan
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                    Mark Parity wrote:

                    Typically the complaint is that somebody has the spreadsheet file open and somebody else can't add a new item.

                    Sounds like you need to designate a "spreadsheet administrator" role. That person should have sole responsibility for amending data, and everyone else just faxes over their change requests.

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                      Mark Parity wrote:

                      Typically the complaint is that somebody has the spreadsheet file open and somebody else can't add a new item.

                      Sounds like you need to designate a "spreadsheet administrator" role. That person should have sole responsibility for amending data, and everyone else just faxes over their change requests.

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                      We already have one of those, don't worry, the problems usually occur when the administrator is on holiday.

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                      • M megaadam

                        I have this guy sitting next to me blabbering some stuff about Excel features when I have a perfectly functioning calculator.

                        "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                        • L Lost User

                          Just checking that the answer is what I expect. I often have to add items to list of figures and then (if I remember) do a copy down of the equation. So I like to know I have done all the steps necessary to get the right answer.

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          Ah, Test Driven Development, the old way. :) <edit>I don't intend to be snarky, I do it as well</edit>

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                          • L Lost User

                            The bloke on the next desk to me uses a pocket calculator to add up lists of numbers that are contained in an Excel spreadsheet. I've tried telling him about the calculating abilities built into Excel but he won't listen and continues to use the pocket calculator (He says I've got this calculator I bought in 1990 so I'm going to continue to use it!). Now he's complaining that the batteries in the pocket calculator are running out... Oh well at least its Friday.

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                            Ronny Japutra
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                            That's a pity, as some of us here must have known that Excel can do much more compared to pocket calculator in shorter amount of time. Hey, may be you could suggest to that bloke that abacus can sometimes do certain calculations much faster than pocket calculator and abacus doesn't need battery. :-D

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                              That's a pity, as some of us here must have known that Excel can do much more compared to pocket calculator in shorter amount of time. Hey, may be you could suggest to that bloke that abacus can sometimes do certain calculations much faster than pocket calculator and abacus doesn't need battery. :-D

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                              Ronny Japutra wrote:

                              Hey, may be you could suggest to that bloke that abacus can sometimes do certain calculations much faster than pocket calculator and abacus doesn't need battery

                              Wrong... it is the person using the abacus, who is faster, not the abacus.

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              • L Lost User

                                The bloke on the next desk to me uses a pocket calculator to add up lists of numbers that are contained in an Excel spreadsheet. I've tried telling him about the calculating abilities built into Excel but he won't listen and continues to use the pocket calculator (He says I've got this calculator I bought in 1990 so I'm going to continue to use it!). Now he's complaining that the batteries in the pocket calculator are running out... Oh well at least its Friday.

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                                Slacker007
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                                The person sitting next to you sounds like an idiot. Have fun with that... :doh:

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                                  Ronny Japutra wrote:

                                  Hey, may be you could suggest to that bloke that abacus can sometimes do certain calculations much faster than pocket calculator and abacus doesn't need battery

                                  Wrong... it is the person using the abacus, who is faster, not the abacus.

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Ronny Japutra
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                                  Nelek wrote:

                                  Wrong... it is the person using the abacus, who is faster, not the abacus.

                                  M.D.V. ;)

                                  That is correct.:thumbsup:

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    The bloke on the next desk to me uses a pocket calculator to add up lists of numbers that are contained in an Excel spreadsheet. I've tried telling him about the calculating abilities built into Excel but he won't listen and continues to use the pocket calculator (He says I've got this calculator I bought in 1990 so I'm going to continue to use it!). Now he's complaining that the batteries in the pocket calculator are running out... Oh well at least its Friday.

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                                    Oh, I distrust Excel. Excel, on the other hand, distrusts me much more.

                                    In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      The bloke on the next desk to me uses a pocket calculator to add up lists of numbers that are contained in an Excel spreadsheet. I've tried telling him about the calculating abilities built into Excel but he won't listen and continues to use the pocket calculator (He says I've got this calculator I bought in 1990 so I'm going to continue to use it!). Now he's complaining that the batteries in the pocket calculator are running out... Oh well at least its Friday.

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Mark Parity wrote:

                                      Now he's complaining that the batteries in the pocket calculator are running out...

                                      Suggest that he uses the calculator on his phone. :) But what I really wonder is, if you were to give him a VBA script that plugs into Excel that creates a calculator ([like this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDxA34t4pr4)) would his brain short-circuit? :laugh:

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                                        The bloke on the next desk to me uses a pocket calculator to add up lists of numbers that are contained in an Excel spreadsheet. I've tried telling him about the calculating abilities built into Excel but he won't listen and continues to use the pocket calculator (He says I've got this calculator I bought in 1990 so I'm going to continue to use it!). Now he's complaining that the batteries in the pocket calculator are running out... Oh well at least its Friday.

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                                        Paul Kemner
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                                        I remember accountants using Excel as a word processor.

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Mark Parity wrote:

                                          Now he's complaining that the batteries in the pocket calculator are running out...

                                          Suggest that he uses the calculator on his phone. :) But what I really wonder is, if you were to give him a VBA script that plugs into Excel that creates a calculator ([like this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDxA34t4pr4)) would his brain short-circuit? :laugh:

                                          Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Oh his (smart)phone is strictly for calling people. I once suggested there was an app for something or another, the reply was "I don't have any apps on my (smart)phone

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